RuneScape Forum Archive | Lack of New Quests

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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SIXTY-NIN3 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
SIXTY-NIN3 said :
Hunteresque said :
SIXTY-NIN3 said :
To be fair, it's hard to take any storyline seriously after the far-reaching ramifications of Endgame . Especially if it's from a "bottle" (read: self-contained) quest.

I agree that it was rather unexpected but we still haven't had any confirmation of what's happened with that ramification nearly 2 years on. Quite sad really.
We'll see when the Elder God story progresses. I'm actually glad there was a lull, because it'd be wildly OOC for Sliske to seek instant gratification after culminating his master plan for centuries, if not millennia.

I think the Elder God quests will be very interesting. Remember, Jas says they will destroy Gielinor if we can't prove our worthiness. It hints on the Elder God is experimenting something important and we are the subjects. Also, these new quests should unveil how the Dragonkins got tangled up with Jas and were eventually enslaved.

Perhaps the Elder Gods haven't found the results they want from the Kins, and now it is the World Guardian and Gielinorians' turn to carry the torch.

I find the Dragonkin to be much more interesting than Jas in general, honestly. Would rather see a quest where we free them from their curse and begrudgingly befriend them rather than sucking up to yet another all-powerful being who we don't even like all that much. Of course, I'm still wildly curious as to where Sliske fits into all this... Somehow, Elder God or no, I don't think he'd let Jas puppeteer him. Seeing as Jas isn't omniscient (as far as we know), he's undoubtedly playing her too. But to what end...?

Jas doesn't puppeteer anybody or god. She asks all the elder gods for their opinions on elevating Zaros to elder godhood. She seems to be very democratic.

19-Sep-2018 03:41:39

Feb

2016

SIXTY-NIN3

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Dilbert2001 said :
Jas doesn't puppeteer anybody or god. She asks all the elder godhood. She seems to be very democratic.
Yes, because one-shotting people for insulting (or "insulting" ) you is the sign of a democratic ruler, lol. “Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable.”

19-Sep-2018 09:33:01 - Last edited on 19-Sep-2018 09:33:18 by SIXTY-NIN3

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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SIXTY-NIN3 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Jas doesn't puppeteer anybody or god. She asks all the elder godhood. She seems to be very democratic.
Yes, because one-shotting people for insulting (or "insulting" ) you is the sign of a democratic ruler, lol.

Correct me if I am wrong, but seemingly we are talking about Jas' actions in different occasions.

(1) When Zaros asks for a promotion to elder godhood, Jas requests the opinions from all the other elder gods before rejecting Zaros' petition. The Elder God pantheon seems like a Democratic Party.

(2) Jas used her supreme powers and the Stone to enslave the Dragonkins. Seemingly that makes her a slaver, but we don't know the whole story of Gielinor and the mystery of the Multiverse it belongs to. Jas might have done it for good clause of all beings in the Multiverse.

(3) Jas "one-shot" the World Guardian for insulting her, but (1) she is an omnipotent elder god in the eyes of mortals, she definitely has the authority to do that just like God/YHWH/Ehyeh or I Am able to "one-shot" you if you insult the ultimate power of the real world Universe., and (2) the World Guardian actually only receives a slap on the wrist as he is only sent to Lumby momentarily, but not perma-killed.

19-Sep-2018 16:04:28

Sep

2023

Aero Dynamik

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I dunno what the heck kind of discussion is happen above, but I'm pretty sure that Jas didn't care for Zaros or Seren, only that she and her sisters would judge the player and the rest of world for themselves. That slap on the wrist also doesn't apply to hardcore-ironmen either...

Anyway, I wholeheartedly agree with the OP's post (all the way back in March, it's now September - six months later). Quests, even if people don't like them or they aren't particularly innovating or revealing, do seem to have a habit of structuring content in the game well - both staggering content and deciding what goes where in the game. The big changes this game has had since EOC 2013 tend to struggle even more, in my opinion, when the schedule goes away from this formula.

Two quests in one year is well below the lowest of six in 2013 and 2017 (last year), so hopefully Jagex and readers can understand why people are getting antsy around this. You know what happened to Chronicle? Nothing. Just like what happened to the Stone of Jas.

20-Sep-2018 06:34:55

Feb

2016

SIXTY-NIN3

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Dilbert2001 said :
Correct me if I am wrong, but seemingly we are talking about Jas' actions in different occasions.
We are, yes, but those different occasions are how we get a more comprehensive glimpse into Jas' character.

1.) Rejecting Zaros' petition at her sisters' behest is all well and good, but can you say with certainty that she wouldn't have veto'd them and made an executive decision if she'd disagreed? I can't. Especially as, evinced by her actions at being insulted by a "lesser being," she seems to be rather prideful.

2.) You are definitely reaching here. What was done to the Dragonkin is even worse than what Seren did to the Mahjarrat. The ritual happens once every x years. The Dragonkin suffered in turmoil on a daily basis until Kerapac (presumably) freed them from their plight. All to serve Jas' ends rather than some undisclosed "greater good." Still, for the sake of debate, let's say you're right... She enslaved an entire (sentient) species. How is that democratic again, exactly?

3.) An all-powerful being shouldn't be affected by a lesser being talking shit, period. Lol. If not, where does it stop? Should the leader of your country be allowed to shoot you in the head just because you called him or her an idiot? I should hope not. All things considered, it comes across as a childish tantrum at best; the whims of an autocratic tyrant at worst. Given Zaros' thoughts on Mah, I'm more inclined to believe the former. The Elder Gods are like children, toying with the lives of everyone else. They're even worse than the lesser gods in that regard, believe it or not.

P.S. Hardcore Ironmen that dare insult Jas *do* perma-die. lol “Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable.”

20-Sep-2018 10:44:45

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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(1) Making other Elder Gods' opinions count toward an important decision making procedure like making a new Elder God is what a democracy is about.

(2) Again we don't know what's the story between Jas and the Dragonkins yet, just like we don't know why all known living things on Planet Earth have to go through the suffering of illness and death. Is God/Yahweh/Ehyeh or I Am a cruel god? Well, I think different people will have different opinions.

(3) When God/Yahweh/Ehyeh gave Mosses the 10 Commandments, Mankind must obey to him, or else risk punishment. Why? Because God/Yahweh/Ehyeh can and maybe he is a "Jealous God" as he called himself. Why can't Jas be a jealous god too? Regardless, she can kill the adventurer just because she can.

20-Sep-2018 17:22:52

Feb

2016

SIXTY-NIN3

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1. Re-read my prior #1. Then, re-read the last two sentences of my #2. Calling someone who enslaved an entire race "democratic" is laughable.

2. We don't. Then again, we don't have to. Speaking of death, however, even the Dragonkin are susceptible. Making them suffer extra for simply being archaic entities is nonsensical in this case, I'm afraid. If anything, it seems like they were punished for surviving Jas' "reset" because how DARE they not roll over and die.

Also, yes, the Judeo-Christian God is cruel at worst; at best, capricious.

3. In other words, Zaros did the right thing in ending Mah. Good. Hopefully, the rest of the elder pantheon follows suit. “Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable.”

20-Sep-2018 21:12:47

zodiackiller

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i like the lack of new quest spam, they have always been something of a chore anyway.

27-Sep-2018 05:41:21

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2021

Dulcis Nex

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Aero Dynamik said :
...Jas... That slap on the wrist also doesn't apply to hardcore-ironmen either... Wroooooooong its a permanent death for them
zodiackiller said :
i like the lack of new quest spam, they have always been something of a chore anyway. Yeah we should have more infinitly repeatable grind content that takes 100 hours to get what we want. That's way better than "chores". You'll get it when you deserve it.

27-Sep-2018 07:33:14

Zak Zakaryas

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Would love to see more Gnome quests and especially Arposandra because it's long overdue, as well as more content with Camelot. My only request for Camelot though is that they remove the fourth-wall elements and keep it within RS and also include characters like Guinevere. And most of all, would love a huge showdown with Amascut. That crazy goddess has been a thorn in my side for a long time. Lol.

03-Oct-2018 22:12:55

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