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KitKat
Feb Member 2008

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Should we keep the Avatar Warden job title itself (purely cosmetic and unattached to the functionality)? If not, what would you like to replace it with?
I don't see any harm in keeping it but as others have said the job titles are kinda pointless.

I've read through everything and any questions I had have been addressed already. This looks amazing, thank you!
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17-Feb-2014 19:33:12

glittery sea
Oct Member 2008

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The only reason that I suggested that admin name be replaced with something else (and not necessarily 'avatar warden') is because admin is the lowest rank which people can summon the avatar from.

I like to hand the avatar out to lower ranks for rewarding them, even though they are at low rank. In my opinion I think it gives them a taste of trying to strive for that position. Call it 'dangling a carrot' if you like.

But I guess for some clan leaders having the admin change to something else would be an abomination.

For my clan, what ever the admin position is going to be called and if I am able to dumb down the permissions for that rank - it will be used mostly for people who are striving for the use of our clan avatars.

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17-Feb-2014 20:26:50

Esquilojunio
May Member 2012

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Aaron FTC said :
Will the Kicking Limit Be Capped?


Can we select 0 - X(Upper Limit) for any rank?

Or will Administrators be unable to kick people?

And Can we restrict other ranks from Kicking?


I'm pretty sure we'll be able to restrict other ranks from Kicking, so you could make it that only the owner gets that function.

The clan menu looks nice and clean on the image, easy to check clan statuses and change them without much confusion.
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18-Feb-2014 01:50:36

Sheyney Fox
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Mod Maz said :
Envision said :
if i read that correctly, admin+ is still required for to summon the avatar. This is the thing i was looking forward to the most, as 3/4 of my clan is spammed with admin+ just so they can summon the avatar.

is there "any" way to make it that at least the 3 star ranks can summon the avatar?


No, this is a fundamental rewrite of the way the entire clan system works. Only admin+ can write to that clan data.


While reading all fifteen pages, I assumed that being an avatar warden was a blanket permission to the whole rank of Admin, however after re-reading the first page again, I see that we are able to award this privilege per member, phew!

At the moment, all our full members are ranked Admin and Avatar Warden (per our Warden agreement), veterans and managers are ranked Organiser and our council ranked co-ordinator. Please can I have another rank so I can honour our managers for all the hard work they do? Pretty please? Or as someone suggested, create a new rank based on Admin but named as Warden perhaps?


Radical said :
Would it be possible to simply change the rank name "Administrator" to "Avatar Warden" in the code? (I realize using the words "simply" and "code" in the same sentence may be inappropriate. :) )


This was really one of the changes I wanted to see so that we can utilise existing ranks who can have avatar privileges. Since that is not possible, can we have another rank as mentioned above?


Mod Maz said :
Afraid not with the avatar tethering. However, this rewrite will allow you to take away most things an admin can do, and only leave them with avatar rights.


Although we have not had any problems with our members abusing this (knock on wood), it is good to have this fail safe finally. Thank you Mod Maz!
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18-Feb-2014 21:25:39

Esploratore
Apr Member 2006

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Hi Sheyney Fox,

Just to be clear, the quote:
"Would it be possible to simply change the rank name "Administrator" to "Avatar Warden" in the code? (I realize using the words "simply" and "code" in the same sentence may be inappropriate. :) )" was posted by me.

Radical was very much opposed to this idea.

I appreciate Mod Maz's hard work and will be happy with whatever additions she can make to the rewrite regarding Avatar Wardens. It's apparent she doesn't have all the flexibility she'd like within the game engine to give us everything some of us had hoped for.

19-Feb-2014 00:15:36

Choobokka

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With apologies for not reading the whole thread first, if only clan leaders can change a lot of this, I hope there is a plan for resolving issues for clans with inactive leaders.   Otherwise there might be a crush of requests to Jagex to replace/remove/delete owners or promote/empower deputies.

19-Feb-2014 04:36:28

Sheyney Fox
Jul Member 2006

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Esploratore said :
Hi Sheyney Fox,

Just to be clear, the quote:
"Would it be possible to simply change the rank name "Administrator" to "Avatar Warden" in the code? (I realize using the words "simply" and "code" in the same sentence may be inappropriate. :) )" was posted by me.

Radical was very much opposed to this idea.

I appreciate Mod Maz's hard work and will be happy with whatever additions she can make to the rewrite regarding Avatar Wardens. It's apparent she doesn't have all the flexibility she'd like within the game engine to give us everything some of us had hoped for.


I had a few quotes going and not enough space and somewhere along the way I obviously cut the wrong person from the quote, my apologies Esploratore, :(

19-Feb-2014 06:33:29

Astralach

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Mod Maz said :
Esploratore said :
Mod Maz,

Would it be possible to simply change the rank name "Administrator" to "Avatar Warden" in the code? (I realize using the words "simply" and "code" in the same sentence may be inappropriate. :) )

The forum posts seem to show that this rank is being used by many clans primarily as a means to allow clan members to host the clan avatar. If you made this change and also provided the additional permission check boxes you're currently working on in the rewrite, this might solve a few dilemmas we've had concerning wanting to give avatar warden permissions to clannies without being forced to include other clan management permissions as well.

Just an idea I had that I wanted to share.

Possible, but totally misleading, as not all clans will run their clan that way. Indeed, not all clans have avatars! As the rank is capable of so much more, I won't be doing this.

Astralach said :
How about changing simply to 'Warden'? It's even more concise and it doesn't refer solely to the clan avatar.
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19-Feb-2014 08:40:01

Morilinde

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I'd like the clanmates list to stay compact. Not so much useless space added as we had with the hiscores page in 2011 (rs website update). Thranduil | King of the Elves of the Wood

19-Feb-2014 12:05:30 - Last edited on 19-Feb-2014 12:06:49 by Morilinde

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