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Mod Matthe said :
A Clan Merging tool is indeed on our backlog for development ;)


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29-Jan-2015 15:49:08

Mod Matthe

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Mod Matthe said :

Hi Tiber,

A Clan Merging tool is indeed on our backlog for development ;)


oo, interesting :P

Don't suppose you can share any information on it? :O

I'm assuming not, since you don't want to let us down if something isn't possible or w.e. :(

Hi Tiber ,

Nope - it is on our backlog so we'll be looking at design and development when we get to that stage, but we are not there yet.

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29-Jan-2015 15:51:52

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Keep track of when a player has been in a clan before. Just a simple boolean value to indicate whether or not this player is joining a clan for the first time. If this is the case, upon joining the clan they don't have any limitations and become a full clan member immediately.

Add a cool down system that front loads the 7 days. When someone joins a new clan, and their player record says that they've been in the clan before, they are put on a "limited clan member" for the following 7 days. As long as they are a limited clan member, they do not have the permissions to participate in restricted clan content.

They are still a part of the clan, they are still recognised as a full clan member by their clans, but they cannot participate in restricted clan content until that delay is over.

____USE CASE____
Bob has never been in a clan. Bob joins "The Clan". On his player record this changes his current clan to "The Clan" and his player record reflects that from now on he's recognised as having been in a clan before.

When he tries to leave his clan he's notified that leaving means he won't be able to participate in restricted clan content for the first seven days upon joining a different clan.

____END CASE____

____USE CASE____
Alice has been in a couple clans before, and with her friend Bob leaving "The Clan" she decided she wanted to move on to Bob's new clan. When she tries to leave, she gets a warning message says that she won't be able to take advantage of restricted clan content for 7 days upon joining a new clan.

Alice decides this is okay, she leaves "The Clan" and joins Bob's clan. Her new clannies still recognise her as a full member of the clan, and she's able to participate in all clan-only events. After 7 days she starts helping out at the clan citadel.

____END CASE____

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4)
5) Yes.
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29-Jan-2015 15:55:50 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2015 15:57:04 by PantsuOnHead

Tiber

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Mod Matthe said :
Nope - it is on our backlog so we'll be looking at design and development when we get to that stage, but we are not there yet.

Ah ok, no worries, keep up the good work :P

Also since this is fairly related to recruitment, what is your thoughts on this idea I proposed a fair bit ago: 86-87-366-65550989 . I think its a rather simple addition that could help recruiters, especially helpful given the probation change, but also equally this recommendation/ tutorial thread could be ignored by those using the forum fairly easily :P
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29-Jan-2015 15:59:08

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Mod Matthe said :
Hi <span style="color:#F3B13F;font-family:KingthingsPetrockRegular,Kingthings Petrock,Verdana,Arial,FreeSans,sans-serif;font-size:1.25em;">Daeve</span>,

Yes we can - we'll add it our development backlog for DevCom1.

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Could informational like name changes and "new clan member" be added to the Clan API? I remember Mod Boko saying this might be a possibility a couple of months ago, but it was never brought up again when they got busy with other web projects.

This would allow people like Blasty and myself to write better clan management tools and avoid a lot of manual work when dealing with "who changed their name?" "who's new?" "who left?".
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29-Jan-2015 16:02:19

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I don't know/think if this idea would be fesable, but maybe it can spur up some other ideas/concepts for other people.

So after a member leaves a clan and is then put on the 7-day probation period, that person goes to look for other clans.  The member finds a specific clan after looking for a day on the forums and in-game, the member wants to join them after a day or two of getting to know them, yet he/she can't officially because they still have like 5-6 days left till invited.

Suggestion:  Can you make it so that if someone from a clan uses the invite function on a clan-less person and is on probation, when the probation person accepts it, he/she is "unofficially" part of the clan.  They don't have any of the features like Citadel or Avatar's, but they could be permanently guesting in the clan chat (if the clan allows it).  Could it be possible to have them show up somewhere on clan interfaces for administrative purposes and have a rank to signal probation?  (I doubt that's possible, but who knows :P )  There should be a choice during the period of being unofficial to leave and move to another clan. Don't know if its technically possible to keep the same amount of days after leaving.  Was thinking also when the probation period ends, the member is automatically made a Recruit rank in the clan and is able to do everything in the clan.  Don't know either if the person needs to be online for that to be possible.

Its a bit of an "out of the box" idea I think lol, but maybe some concepts of it can be implemented or even used in another way to make something else if it doesn't work. :)

Summary of Idea - Make probation people able to join clans unofficially and be able to "be apart" of the clan socially until the probation is over to be officially part of the clan.

EDIT:  It seems Pantsu and I have the idea in mind ^_^ :P
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29-Jan-2015 16:03:16 - Last edited on 29-Jan-2015 16:07:11 by Old Nairb

Mod Matthe

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Keep track of when a player has been in a clan before. Just a simple boolean value to indicate whether or not this player is joining a clan for the first time. If this is the case, upon joining the clan they don't have any limitations and become a full clan member immediately.

Add a cool down system that front loads the 7 days. When someone joins a new clan, and their player record says that they've been in the clan before, they are put on a "limited clan member" for the following 7 days. As long as they are a limited clan member, they do not have the permissions to participate in restricted clan content.

They are still a part of the clan, they are still recognised as a full clan member by their clans, but they cannot participate in restricted clan content until that delay is over.

____USE CASE____
Bob has never been in a clan. Bob joins "The Clan". On his player record this changes his current clan to "The Clan" and his player record reflects that from now on he's recognised as having been in a clan before.

When he tries to leave his clan he's notified that leaving means he won't be able to participate in restricted clan content for the first seven days upon joining a different clan.

____END CASE____

____USE CASE____
Alice has been in a couple clans before, and with her friend Bob leaving "The Clan" she decided she wanted to move on to Bob's new clan. When she tries to leave, she gets a warning message says that she won't be able to take advantage of restricted clan content for 7 days upon joining a new clan.

Alice decides this is okay, she leaves "The Clan" and joins Bob's clan. Her new clannies still recognise her as a full member of the clan, and she's able to participate in all clan-only events. After 7 days she starts helping out at the clan citadel.

____END CASE____

1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Yes.
4)
5) Yes.

Hi PantsuOnHead ,

This would require adding a check to every piece of Clan or competition content - this is not technically feasible.

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29-Jan-2015 16:12:35

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I don't understand how this is not technically feasible. How else do you add requirements to anything? You're already adding a check to clan-exclusive content to see if someone is actually part of a clan...
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29-Jan-2015 16:22:02

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I continue to see the change as a positive update. Though I do think some more visibility surrounding the cooldown period would be nice. Those who are on the cooldown period can see it nicely, but I haven't seen a way for us to see it unless we track them down and try to invite them prematurely. Can those who join a guest CC while still on cooldown have their name appear in a different color in the CC interface? Maybe
red
for 1-5 days after leaving their clan and
yellow
for the last two before they can be invited?

If not, it isn't necessary. Just my two cents. ^.^
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29-Jan-2015 16:48:48

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