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8) Beyond detection hints east of Fremenik isles

The ghost activated several beyond detection hints towards the east of the Fremenik isles on water.





Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wYtb_HNfdk

The video is not conclusive enough for say for sure what the eastern border is for the "on islands where brothers quarrel" clue.

9) Beyond detection hints south of Fremenik isles

The ghost activated several beyond detection hints towards the south of the Fremenik isles on water.





Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix3SV3NgwOE

The video is not conclusive enough to say for sure, but the southern border of the "on islands where brothers quarrel" clue may be:

19 degrees, 13 minutes north (on islands where brothers quarrel)
19 degrees, 11 minutes north (somewhere beyond detection)

This estimation is based on the somewhat distinctive darkened line running through the water and additionally another north/south border much further east is the same as above.

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20-Mar-2021 23:45:48 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2021 11:34:06 by GhostPenguin

Haven't posted here in a little while, but luckily I've got quite a dozen interesting case files to present for this next mega-series of posts I'm about to make. There is a lot to read and take in, so if you are planning to read it all in one go, I would recommend grabbing a cup of coffee and some donuts (or waffles!) before you start.

1) BRAND NEW CLUE

"near where they see"

A brand new clue has been discovered. "Near where they see" activated on the water south of the Fossegrimen altar towards the east of the Lighthouse, and covers over to the north of Sinclair Mansion. Full text was "Penguin 11 located near where they see."




Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfbsWNpnDMM

This clue definitely was not present upon the release of the penguin rework. This is evident in one or two of my previous posts. I also looked back through some older files I have and found one where the ghost activated the beyond detection hint in the same area, which was dated the 9th of Jan 2021.



I was not able to immediately understand the hint, as it seemed rather cryptic. Initially, I thought it may have been referring to Peer the Seer in Relleka. The wiki article on him (https://runescape.wiki/w/Peer_the_Seer) says "He can see into the nearby future". It seemed a bit too far away though, but I didn't discount it as a possibility.

It was then suggested to me that the clue could be referring to the seers in Seers Village. I thought about that at first but discounted it as I didn't realise they could 'see' into the future at the time until reading a RS Wiki article (I blame myself for rushing through quests too fast and not taking in the lore...). A wiki article (https://runescape.wiki/w/Seer) says "Seers have the ability to see the future".

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22-May-2021 20:46:41 - Last edited on 23-May-2021 00:24:42 by GhostPenguin

This would seem to be what the clue is referring to most likely, as the clue text refers to 'they', rather than a single entity, i.e. Peer the Seer. From what I have searched online, Peer the Seer is the only Fremenik seer but I could very well be wrong. Seers Village is a reasonable distance away from the clue area, perhaps even more than Relleka, but I can't think of any other logical connection to something else nearby.

And the text of various clues don't always match up with where you'd start looking or think they were, i.e. think "near the dungeons of Daemonheim" and "near bees and flax" before the rework happened - both existed quite a way away from their original base meaning. Who knows ... it could even be referring to both Peer the Seer and the seers in Seers Village as a collective group combined together.

Exactly when this new clue was added in I am unsure. I first discovered the clue on the 9th of May. It appears to be a hidden update by Jagex, possibly on the game update on the 26th of Apr or the 3rd 4th of May.

From a vague memory I have, whilst I was helping herd a penguin from north of Seers up to Relleka cow pen a month now or so ago (on the 20th of Apr I believe, by looking back on penguin threads a few versions ago), I remember taking a clue whilst it was next to the bridge which activated Gielinor. So, on that basis, the clue has been seemingly added in sometime since then.

Upon further testing, I took a regular penguin to some other locations, and worked out some borders:





The east border of the "near where they see" clue is:

09 degrees, 43 minutes east (near where they see)
09 degrees, 45 minutes east (somewhere in Gielinor)

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EDIT: correcting date

22-May-2021 20:51:12 - Last edited on 25-May-2021 00:44:52 by GhostPenguin

22-May-2021 20:51:58 - Last edited on 23-May-2021 00:25:10 by GhostPenguin

22-May-2021 20:52:53 - Last edited on 23-May-2021 00:25:22 by GhostPenguin

2) Beyond detection zone near Here Be Penguins (eastern isle)

The ghost visited some of his northern neighbours and caught up with them for a short while (unfortunately, the Macaroni penguin was left out during the visit... he must've been jealous of his fellow brethren receiving the extra attention!) on this isle.






Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwWSfm4QFo

After reviewing the footage multiple times, I believe the northern border of the "on an island, etc" clue is likely to be:

23 degrees, 13 minutes north (somewhere beyond detection)
23 degrees, 11 minutes north (on an island, etc)

The northern border of the "on islands where brothers quarrel" hint could follow these coordinates too.

3) Confirmed eastern border for "around Feldip Hills, near Gu'Tanoth" clue




The eastern border of the clue is:

06 degrees, 41 minutes east (around Feldip Hills, near Gu'Tanoth)
06 degrees, 43 minutes east (somewhere beyond detection)

So, this is a little odd, in terms of the minute placement. Quite a number of east/west borders follow the 43/45 min notation. The eastern most row you can go to there is 06 degrees, 39 minutes east. Whether its southern counterpart follows the same border is not known.

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22-May-2021 20:59:45

4) Approximate eastern border of "on an island, etc" hint

Followed a ghost making its way up from the Relleka snowy hunter area towards the east of Etceteria castle on water. It activated beyond detection to the far east.





Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtLctTsjUVg

Some thoughts, in an effort to figure out a border...

From what I have observed by testing, the ghost (probably any NPC, but I haven't tested) can be seen by up to 32 tiles away. The scanner only sees up to 30 tiles, but you can still see it, at least on Ultra draw distance, at 31 or 32 tiles away. Once you are 33 steps away, it is not in vision any longer. This seems to be the case regardless of whether your directly north or south of it, or regardless of whether it is southeast from you (thought I'd mention that, as in the video, that occurs)

Calculating this on more expansive land towards the south, it looks like:

05 degrees, 45 mins east (the row I was on towards the east of Etceteria castle in the video)

...
(lots of rows, walks further east)
...

06 degrees, 41 mins east (30 steps east)
06 degrees, 43 mins east (31 steps east)
06 degrees, 45 mins east (32 steps east)
06 degrees, 46 mins east (ghost out of sight)

With all that in mind, here are the pertinent timestamps of the video:

At video timestamp 02:59: final island clue is received. Based on how long it took before it disappeared, it was about ~29 steps away from me. It took about three steps further east before it disappered out of sight.
At video timestamp 03:19: beyond detection is received. Based on how it had just come into view, it must have been 31 steps away when the beyond detection hint was received.

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22-May-2021 21:10:16

Taking all this into account, it would appear as though the border looks something like this...

06 degrees, 37 minutes east (on an island, etc)
06 degrees, 39 minutes east (likely on an island, etc)
06 degrees, 41 minutes east (???)
06 degrees, 43 minutes east (???)
06 degrees, 45 minutes east (somewhere beyond detection)

The only comparable border looking down further south on the map is the one mentioned in case file #2, apart from the south Feldip Hills clue, but we don't know what that one is for sure. It seems as though its using either the 41/43 (from case file #2) or 43/45 min notation. It's going to be super difficult to prove which one its set to exactly.

The evidence suggests that the developer who made this particular clue wanted to set the east border to 05 degrees, 43 minutes east / 05 degrees, 45 minutes east at first, but saw there were two rows that would activate a Gielinor hint if that was the case, so instead it was set further east.

5) Beyond detection at Azure skillchompas area

The ghost ventured north of the icy ridge (north of the Relleka snowy hunter area) into the area where the Azure skillchompas are and activated several beyond detection hints. It also rather conveniently hugged the northern edge of the ridge next to the cluster of ice cubes allowing me to confirm the border there.





Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcVujc_H1z4

The video is conclusive enough to say the northern border of the "between Fremenik and barbarians" clue (towards the north of the icy ridge) is:

21 degrees, 13 minutes north (somewhere beyond detection)
21 degrees, 11 minutes north (between Fremenik and barbarians)

It also activated the Fremenik clue towards the east of the cave entrance leading to the Polar eagles.



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22-May-2021 21:14:30

6) Frozen wastes clue activating around Ice Path, Zemouregal's fort, southwestern Mahjarrat Ritual Site, Nanuq northeast of GWD entrance

Two separate ghost runs, but as they are similar, I have grouped them together.

FIRST GHOST RUN ( Ice Path, Zemouregal's fort, southwestern Mahjarrat Ritual Site )

The ghost activated the frozen wastes hint around the three regions as described above in the title.






Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd2OyK2q24I

Unfortunately, just as I was about to take a hint near the entrance of the Fort where it was at, the zombie bonked me on the head thereby messing up my keys, so couldn't take the hint before it moved away. Will have to remember for the future to avoid him up there.

SECOND GHOST RUN ( Nanuq northeast of GWD entrance )

The ghost activated the frozen wastes hint near Nanuq the polar bear, northeast of God Wars Dungeon entrance. I received the hint whilst I wasn't on the best of angles for a more photogenic shot, but it is obvious where it is approximately with the scanner giving it away and the marker on the minimap.



Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2lL78rAcdA

The frozen wastes clue is shaping up to be a large rectangular box covering an expansive area of land.

7) Beyond detection activating towards the east of Pirate's Cove/northeast of Lady Zay (the galleon there)

It also activated it directly on the east side of Lady Zay, but unfortunately my program took two seconds or so to start recording, so it is not shown in the video.




Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8N7FICH_gc

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22-May-2021 21:54:49 - Last edited on 22-May-2021 21:55:12 by GhostPenguin

8) Beyond detection on northern end of Trollweiss Mountain range

The ghost activated a beyond detection hint on the southern rim of northern Trollweiss.



The beyond detection hint also activated a few steps northeast of where it was in the picture above, but it teleported at the exact moment I received the clue.



Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD9UHETkg7g

I would've preferred for it to roam further north than what it did to confirm the hint stretches up further north of where it was, but alas, it teleported too soon. Maybe I'll be able to achieve this in the future. But if there were to be a clue covering that area, it would've likely started activating just slightly to the south.

9) Pointy-eared ones clue activating underneath Prifidinnas, towards the southeast area

Two separate clue runs, but have added both (have only linked a video to the first run).

The ghost activated the pointy-eared ones clue underneath Prifidinnas, towards the southeastern area. Early observation suggests the clue may cover a large area of Prifidinnas underground, but probably not the northwestern bit. The northeastern bit may be covered by the eagles fly clue.

I'll do more investigative work here in the future to try and determine if this is the case. At the moment it seems towards the southeastern bit the ghost hits an invisible wall, so I'm not sure of how much potential it actually has to roam further inwards. But haven't been able to test more towards the west area. For now, here are some pictures:

FIRST GHOST RUN




Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS82JqqdgQE

SECOND GHOST RUN (this one shows approximately where it seemingly hits a snag in terms of the invisible wall)




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22-May-2021 22:00:39