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2. The max number of penguin spies that can be available to be picked from to scan specifically for at one time seems to be 5. Here is a picture with snowmen in the Draynor Manor (well you can't see them, but they are there. 4 were in the pantry room and one was just out in the room north of it). It does not appear to be recognising the ghost as an option to choose from, even though it is well within nearby distance.
I did this a few times in different spots around the manor courtyard as the ghost was scampering around and it was never present when the others appeared on the list, even though it was well within range. When I moved further away to a tile where a few of the snowmen were out of range (but some were still in range), the ghost appeared as an option to select from on the list, along with the others.
There could be two possible reasons for this. The most likely one to me seems that there is an array of them, and the last remaining penguin number(s) (ghost is #11 in this case, while the others are #1 thru #5) gets knocked off the list if there is more than five penguins to list at once. Or it just simply lists the first five sequential numbered penguins and ignores any other remaining ones left over.
The other possibility which seems slimmer is the dialog box is inheriting some code which tells it to only expand vertically so far with some mathematical calculations in terms of pixel width/height to determine that, and adding a sixth penguin to the list violates that. Some other activities ingame may have this too but none are coming to mind.
So if one is getting a clue for a particular region when there are already five others nearby, the sixth penguin will seemingly not be picked up by using the scan feature, unless the other penguins are too far out of scanning range.
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I did this a few times in different spots around the manor courtyard as the ghost was scampering around and it was never present when the others appeared on the list, even though it was well within range. When I moved further away to a tile where a few of the snowmen were out of range (but some were still in range), the ghost appeared as an option to select from on the list, along with the others.
There could be two possible reasons for this. The most likely one to me seems that there is an array of them, and the last remaining penguin number(s) (ghost is #11 in this case, while the others are #1 thru #5) gets knocked off the list if there is more than five penguins to list at once. Or it just simply lists the first five sequential numbered penguins and ignores any other remaining ones left over.
The other possibility which seems slimmer is the dialog box is inheriting some code which tells it to only expand vertically so far with some mathematical calculations in terms of pixel width/height to determine that, and adding a sixth penguin to the list violates that. Some other activities ingame may have this too but none are coming to mind.
So if one is getting a clue for a particular region when there are already five others nearby, the sixth penguin will seemingly not be picked up by using the scan feature, unless the other penguins are too far out of scanning range.
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10-Dec-2020 12:39:40
Another somewhere beyond detection clue. This time, the ghost was towards the south end of Entrana on water when it activated it. The
It activated the usual Entrana clue 'where no weapons may go' in the following picture, where the red circle is (it was running away by the time I had the opportunity to take a snippet).
It could possibly start activating the somewhere beyond detection clue one step south of where the red circle is based on another clue I took, but it just took off at the same time I received the clue, so I can't be absolutely sure.
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Meanwhile at Witchaven, the ghost still activates the banana smugglers dwell clue to the southeast.
The
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Additionally, the clue region for 'west of Ardougne, in the hills', seems to have been expanded further north. See pictures below. The 1st one gave the clue where it was standing in the picture, and the 2nd one 'north of Ardougne' clue activated it somewhere in the blue circle (it was running at the time)
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Just had an interesting run in with the east of Ardougne, near the coast, somewhere beyond detection and where no weapons may go clues. The ghost was moving between all of them with a mixture of them. Quite a lot was going on, but luckily I was recording, so I have published a video on youtube of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54_e2fx50yg
red
line is my suggestion of the clue border between somewhere beyond detection and where no weapons may go clue, though it may be one step north (see further below).
It activated the usual Entrana clue 'where no weapons may go' in the following picture, where the red circle is (it was running away by the time I had the opportunity to take a snippet).
It could possibly start activating the somewhere beyond detection clue one step south of where the red circle is based on another clue I took, but it just took off at the same time I received the clue, so I can't be absolutely sure.
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Meanwhile at Witchaven, the ghost still activates the banana smugglers dwell clue to the southeast.
The
red
line in this picture resembles where the water wall is (an invisible wall block which the ghost cannot pass) and the
blue
is my suggestion of where the border is between banana smugglers and east of ardougne near the coast clue.
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Additionally, the clue region for 'west of Ardougne, in the hills', seems to have been expanded further north. See pictures below. The 1st one gave the clue where it was standing in the picture, and the 2nd one 'north of Ardougne' clue activated it somewhere in the blue circle (it was running at the time)
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Just had an interesting run in with the east of Ardougne, near the coast, somewhere beyond detection and where no weapons may go clues. The ghost was moving between all of them with a mixture of them. Quite a lot was going on, but luckily I was recording, so I have published a video on youtube of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54_e2fx50yg
10-Dec-2020 15:04:30 - Last edited on 10-Dec-2020 16:44:51 by GhostPenguin
Nice work elipile! I remember there was a pumpkin south of the gatekeeper to Daemonhem (the one that lets you in and out of the wildy) across the river like a month or so ago now, but it wasn't as far east as it could possibly go.
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A "somewhere beyond detection" clue to the northeast of Entrana, on the water. In the picture, the green circle represents approximately where it was when I received the clue.
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Did some testing around the Sinclair Mansion area. Firstly, the Sinclair Mansion (inside the fenced area) appears to be solely east Kandarin. Northwest of the mansion however, there are a number of Gielinor clue rows, likely on the same west/east row from over by the bridge leading to Fremenik area.
Northwest-ish of Sinclair Mansion
Lots of Gielinor rows. This details the borders between Fremenik, Gielinor and Kandarin clues:
13 degrees, 37 minutes north (between Fremenik and Barbarians)
13 degrees, 35 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 33 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 31 minutes north (somewhere in Gielnor)
13 degrees, 30 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 28 mintues north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 26 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 24 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 22 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 20 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 18 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 16 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 15 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 13 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 11 minutes north (in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin)
13 degrees, 09 minutes north (in the east of the kigndom of Kandarin)
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A "somewhere beyond detection" clue to the northeast of Entrana, on the water. In the picture, the green circle represents approximately where it was when I received the clue.
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Did some testing around the Sinclair Mansion area. Firstly, the Sinclair Mansion (inside the fenced area) appears to be solely east Kandarin. Northwest of the mansion however, there are a number of Gielinor clue rows, likely on the same west/east row from over by the bridge leading to Fremenik area.
Northwest-ish of Sinclair Mansion
Lots of Gielinor rows. This details the borders between Fremenik, Gielinor and Kandarin clues:
13 degrees, 37 minutes north (between Fremenik and Barbarians)
13 degrees, 35 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 33 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 31 minutes north (somewhere in Gielnor)
13 degrees, 30 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 28 mintues north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 26 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 24 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 22 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 20 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 18 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 16 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 15 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 13 minutes north (somewhere in Gielinor)
13 degrees, 11 minutes north (in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin)
13 degrees, 09 minutes north (in the east of the kigndom of Kandarin)
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11-Dec-2020 18:23:46 - Last edited on 11-Dec-2020 19:04:44 by GhostPenguin
12 degrees, 05 minutes north. 10 degrees, 01 minutes east (in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin) -- this is the most eastern point I can get it to east of Sinclair Mansion (excluding the small path-like corridor north of Camelot Castle). So the border between "somewhere in Gielinor" and "in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin" is likely somewhere between 10 degrees, 02 minutes east and 10 degrees, 14 minutes east
The clue border between "... in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin" and "... near the Castle of Arthur" is as below:
09 degrees, 45 minutes east (Castle of Arthur)
09 degrees, 43 minutes east (in the east of the kigndom of Kandarin)
So there's quite a number of clue borders and interesting ones in there. Someone let know if anything dosen't make sense.
Some pictures:
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The area north of Castle Wars appears to be all 'south of Ardougne'. The west of Ardougne, in the hills and south of Ardougne clue border are as follows:
Eastern border
01 degrees, 16 minutes west (west of Ardougne, in the hills)
01 degrees, 15 minutes west (south of Ardougne)
Southern border
01 degrees, 13 minutes north (west of Ardougne, in the hills)
01 degrees, 11 minutes north (south of Ardougne)
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The clue border between "... in the east of the kingdom of Kandarin" and "... near the Castle of Arthur" is as below:
09 degrees, 45 minutes east (Castle of Arthur)
09 degrees, 43 minutes east (in the east of the kigndom of Kandarin)
So there's quite a number of clue borders and interesting ones in there. Someone let know if anything dosen't make sense.
Some pictures:
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The area north of Castle Wars appears to be all 'south of Ardougne'. The west of Ardougne, in the hills and south of Ardougne clue border are as follows:
Eastern border
01 degrees, 16 minutes west (west of Ardougne, in the hills)
01 degrees, 15 minutes west (south of Ardougne)
Southern border
01 degrees, 13 minutes north (west of Ardougne, in the hills)
01 degrees, 11 minutes north (south of Ardougne)
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11-Dec-2020 18:29:15 - Last edited on 11-Dec-2020 18:43:07 by GhostPenguin
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