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elipile
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I'm pretty sure that the border between banan smugglers and deep jungle runs on the Tai Bowian end of the isthmus (wow, I hope I could remember all these terms I find from dictionary). There is a visible music border running there and Horseshoe mine area, Fisk trap and Brimhaven docks are provenly part of the banana smugglers clue.
I just noticed I have not included this border on my list on first page. Ty for bringing this up.
And also, what would be very interesting, is to get all the not common clues written down too. Maybe there has been some clues that are taken off for some reason. Secret remembers there was a clue for Lumberyard, Boomer says he has heard a clue for Tai Bow Wannai and Amat remembers drinking pirates :) I'm going to update these on the unanswered questions post too.
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22-Feb-2009 07:55:04 - Last edited on 22-Feb-2009 07:58:15 by elipile

Aveo7
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Wow. Great thread Eli! And great research too! I'd been reading the snippets of your research that you'd been posting on the Penguin Locations threads but even so I wasn't expecting the depth and quality of it to be so high!

I have a suggestion, in case no-one's mentioned it before: Larry can be contacted by the Lunar spell "NPC Contact". This means you can stay with the penguin while asking Larry for clues. I'm not sure if you're doing this already or not :P
I've also heard that the "where Wizards study" can be activated around the Magic Guild in Yanille. I'm not sure if its true though.

22-Feb-2009 14:59:22

elipile
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Thank you Aveo :) I have really enjoyed doing this.
Your info of possible Mage Guild -clue is added on post 1.10. Need to check that one when I'm on Lunar spellbook again.
I have used contact npc, but as I'm not so familiar with magics, it is always a hazzle to change books and then not having the only spells I use - teles and high alching.
But I agree - it is very helpfull.
Eli
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22-Feb-2009 19:33:34

sea dog

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hi eli not sure on what you have in P O H but i have the mahogany lecturn can make all teleport tabs from normal spell book come on down to yanille some time for free use i keep a small stock of house telles for when im on lunar (i can then use portal room and glory in there for free teles to varrock cammy and canifis and of course the glory`s)
whenever you make something idiot proof the universe fights back with more resourceful idiots

23-Feb-2009 02:48:07

elipile
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Ty Paalam, you are a treasure. I never thought of such an easy solution for tele problems when on Lunar.
Instead of making all possible teletabs, like I did, just house teletabs are enough and then using portals (well propably couple of Lumby teletabs replacing my normal home tele).
And this saves me many spots in bank too :D
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23-Feb-2009 19:53:43

Canada Grrl
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Just my opinion, but I think the magic guild generating the 'Where wizards study" clue is only a misunderstanding.
I've had people in the cc say it and just assume it was the guild. I have seen no reason to believe it is.

24-Feb-2009 01:27:14

elipile
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Yes Canada, I think exactly the same, all of Yanille is part of the clue "south of Ardougne".

Something new from this weeks penguins:
Port Phasmatys clue area is larger than the area of the town.
We have 2 penguins in Morytania and none in Port Phasmatys. As one of the Morytaninan penguins was supposed to respawn near Port Phasmatys, and it was found there after teleing, I went to ask clues when I heard it was also trapped near Port Phasmatys.
I got several times the clue "near the ghost town" while Aphro and Bd were trapping the penguin in the farm shop and closer to the town.
We found the respawn spot also (Morytanian crate penguin). It is interesting - middle of a round peninsula west side of the lake west of Port Phasmatys. It seems that it is still in the area of "bloodsuckers rule" clue but very close to the clue border of the "near the ghost town" clue.
Now I need to check the hidden music borders around there.
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26-Feb-2009 14:44:59 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2009 15:11:00 by elipile

elipile
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It is most likely that the Barbarian Outpost area does not have its own specific clue.
In Barbarian Outpost there are actually 3 visual music borders. Two are running from west to east (north of Assault building and north of the bridge to Barxtorian falls) and one from north to south (near the way to the shortcut to Gonme Stronghold).
After I heard of the possible spesific Barbarian Outpost clue, I assumed that the middle part of the Outpost between those two west-east music borders would be the area of that spesific clue. At this weeks reset first clue from Barbarian Outpost was "between Fremennik and Barbarians" but only in some minutes the clue changed to "somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin" and soon back again. Within first 40 minutes after reset those two were the only ones I got.

The northern parts of the Outpost are part of the "between Fremennink and barbarians" clue area. But when the penguin is trapped at the Barbarian Assault building it activates the "somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin" clue.
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26-Feb-2009 15:06:37

Canada Grrl
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Been meaning to post for a few days now, as it has to do with last week's penguins.
People in the cc were getting the clue "flax and honey" for the Burthorpe penguin which at the time was on the western side of White Wolf Mountain. This is more of an observation really, but the fact that there is no such thing as a Camelot penguin (original spot) I think indicates that Jagex did intend for these penguins to roam and roam far. I mean why else create such clues? They could have programmed penguins to stay within a certain range (smaller than current) but the fact that every area of RS generates a clue says something I think. And areas without a specific penguin generate individual clues.
I also finally got a chance to go see the new Phoenix lair area when spying on the Eagle's Peak penguin. I noticed immediately that when we were in it there was no music. Everything went silent. When I stepped out of the area music began again. Don't know if this has any relevance to the clues and maybe I need to do the quest (I haven’t) but I thought it was interesting in terms of triggering.
By the way, I just got level 50 Runecrafting last night and eagerly went to check out the guild in Draynor. Have you seen the map in there? I know it is very general and vague, but do the border lines shown correspond to your music/clue borders? It’s the only thing I can think of that comes from Jagex indicating borders.
I know you are wondering of some earlier forgotten clues. Even I am having false memory syndrome and thinking....."yeah maybe there were more clues" :P . Well you could look on some outside sites that might have old clues listed in previous weeks. I used this method myself to determine penguin disguises in early weeks.

27-Feb-2009 10:56:16

elipile
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Actually that same flax and honey -clue is familiar to me too. I got that clue when a penguin was trapped on the very northwestern corner of WWM in a very small area. Its west from the Imperial Guards clue area. You can see to the Camelot castle back yard from there.
It is one of the mystery clues and one more hidden music border to check.

From the Phoenix lair area I have got evidence of "somewhere in Runescape" clue. During the first hour after this weeks reset I got that clue several times while Piscatoris penguin was reported to be near Phoenix lair. (Penguin locations v26 p.5)
I have an assumption of the areas without any music being related to the somewhere in Runescape -clue. I know there is one 1 square area of no music following the music border just south side of Yanille. I suppose there might as well be others, and most likely where music borders meet obstacles in the map or where the music borders cross each other.

The question of individualized clues, just like this "flax and honey" -clue or the "near castle of Arthur" -clue is very interesting. These particular clues are also very close to each other. I once heard someone saying that near Sinclair mansion there would be a spesific clue also, but I didn't manage to get any last week while on other worlds.

I suppose it is time to get all my pieces of evidence on clues, clue borders and music borders organized and squeesed to the character limits of those 3 reserved posts I have on this thread.
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