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Canada Grrl
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Canada Grrl

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Well busy with the new reset, but just a quick note that I will try to expand upon later.
I got 9 clues today during the first 20 minutes of reset. Considering there are 2 elf and 2 desert, I got an extra clue. I'll post more later.
Oh also, what Boomer was referring to above, it was Pax who said that about the ridge near Polli. I'll look up the v number.
EDIT:
My clues from Larry during the first 20 minutes after reset:
South of Ardougne
Near some Ogres
In the Kingdom of Kandarin
Pointy eared ones
Imperial guards train
Southern desert
Wizards study
Eagles Fly
Fremenik and Barbarians
So these describe "11" penguins. Who was the roamer? :P

18-Feb-2009 01:52:24 - Last edited on 18-Feb-2009 10:45:37 by Canada Grrl

Canada Grrl
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Canada Grrl

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Just to pick up from your discussion about the Baxtorian falls penguin, I am almost convinced that there is no such particular penguin. It can't be proven of course here, only Jagex knows, but I think it is our more familiar Barbarian Outpost penguin who moved so fast that it became mis-named.
As for naming them, you know the re-sets are my area of interest and I now have over 60 "named" penguins in my files. ;)
I was looking up information on some desert penguins and again I was reminded of the week where we were given the "northern desert" clue and no one could find it and the tenth penguin ended up being on Dragontooth. Back then (v4) we weren't aware that clues changed with penguin movement, but I went to look at the list that week and there is no penguin anywhere near the desert. Draynor was the closest followed by Goblin village. But this anomaly happened during reset so I would find it hard to believe it would travel that far in so short a time.
Any explanations? O_o

18-Feb-2009 11:01:35

elipile
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elipile

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I also got more than 8 clues during the first 20 minutes after reset, actually my 10th clue was somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin exactly 1.01 am gmt.
My list of clues was:
00.44 Fremennik and barbarians
00.44 Imperial Guards
00.45 northern desert
00.45 eagles fly
00.46 pointy eared
00.46 near some ogres
00.47 southern desert
00.48 wizards study
00.50 south Ardougne (00.52 near some ogres)
01.01 kingdom of Kandarin
At the end of the list there was many repeated clues, earlier also some repeatings.
Southern and northern desert are clear, the penguin respawning near Uzer has been up north an then roamed back south.
Same is with the near ogres and south of Ardougne clues. The so called CW penguin is respawning in the ogre area south of Castle Wars, and the border between those clues is running along south walls of Castle Wars and Yanille. Within the 20 minutes I assume Feldip was not yet in Yanille, so the southern Adrougne clue was caused by CW penguin.
That kingdom of Kandarin clue is more puzzling though. I got it only after 20 minutes from reset, but I understood that both Canada and Dreiden got it earlier. The explanation I can think of now is that Piscatoris had roamed towards the southern boat and possibly past the Eagles Peak too. Atleast there is a music border along those areas.
Edit: If the penguin has been east from Falconer or southeast / norteast, it has activated somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin clue.
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18-Feb-2009 16:24:17 - Last edited on 23-Feb-2009 00:38:31 by elipile

elipile
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elipile

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Today I got 3 clues that were hard to fit in the picture of the locations on w 60.

Those were "somewhere in Runescape", "near some ogres" and maybe an hour later "somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin".
At the time of the clues given both CW and Feldip penguins were inside Yanille walls, Feldip in northern and CW in southern. Normally the clue from that area is "south of Ardougne"
I alarmed the cc in fear that one of the trapped penguins might have got out and back on their respawn areas (near some ogres), but both penguins were safely in the walls.
Of the penguins that could possibly be in the area of "somewhere in the kingdom of Kandarin" Piscatoris was in Piscatoris hunter area and Rellakka was in the cow pen in Rellakka.
When I got that Kandarin clue, I read from the cc that Piscatoris was trapped east of the Falconer by the coast. When looking from RS map, Falconer and east coast from it is lots more east than rest of the hunter area.
From earlier music border experimenting I had found a visible border between Eagle Peak music and Gnomeball music running south from Kathy Corkats boat. Today I found a hidden music border between Jolly of the Hunt and On the Wing that run on the same vertical row of squares as did the visible border between Eagle Peak and Gnomeball.
That trapped penguin was on the east side of the hidden music border I had found and it was activating the Kandarin clue. It seems that the Piscatoris hunter area has two possible clues just like Al Kharid.
From this hidden border discovery I started to think what if the "near some ogres" clue was actually activated when a penguin is in south Yanille wall. That wall has a part stretching 2 squares south from the rest of the wall. As I have found out earlier, the border between "near some ogres" and "south of Ardougne" runs just one square south from Yanille south wall, and the part streching south has its most southern row of squares on the side of the "near some ogres" clue.
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21-Feb-2009 00:46:35 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2009 22:41:23 by elipile

elipile
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elipile

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Also the music borders back up that one row of squares in Yanille south wall activating the "near some ogres" clue instead of the "south of Ardougne" clue.
From south of Castle Wars towards Yanille the music border runs visible along the same horizontal row of squares although the music changes couple of times on the ogres side of it. Near the out stretching part of Yanille south wall the music boreder becomes hidden, but it is there. This hidden border can be found also inside the wall and it runs on the most southern row of squares inside the stretched out part.
By "hidden" music border I mean the music that refreshes when you log out and back in. Or on some areas it also refreshes when you walk on an other side of "visible" music border and back. The idea of these hidden borders - refreshing music - I got from Amaterasu (p.10). The visible border is something you can see your self from music interface. The music changes immediately when a border is crossed. Hidden music does not change untill you either spend long enough time for it to change to next, or you log out and back in.

The clue "somewhere in Runescape" is still a mystery, but I have thought of one possible explanation. It has also something to do with music.
Although almost every reachable square in Runescape activates some music, there are some areas that have for some reason been left out of music. I have found one major area and one 1 square size small area. The major area is the new area where the Phoenix lair is. That area is without any music. But as there are no clickable obstacles, the Piscatoris penguin can roam there.
The 1 square without music I found today when following the music border just south of Yanille. On the very east by the coast, the last squrare by the sea is without any music.
At the moment, the best explanation I have found for the "somewhere in Runescape" is that a penguin is on an area that does not activate any music -or clue- of its own.
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21-Feb-2009 01:19:50 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2009 01:59:12 by elipile

Canada Grrl
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Canada Grrl

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Where banana smugglers dwell - that is a Karamja clue.
So I suppose, smugglers can be pirates. :P
Actually, when the penguin is at the Brimhaven gold horseshoe mine, is the clue "Deep in the jungle"?
OK..better go read the first few pages.

22-Feb-2009 01:16:20 - Last edited on 22-Feb-2009 01:18:58 by Canada Grrl

Amaterasu Mi
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No, I believe I've heard a Karamja clue the had something to do with pirates drinking or partying. Nothing to do with Mos Le'Harmless. The clue "Banana smugglers" makes sense when a penguin is on the east side of the fence, but I think the clue changes when it moves to the west side of the fence.

22-Feb-2009 03:05:54

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