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Lord Drakan
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I'll add the mace suggestions to my other thread for want of space, and because it's not really related to the minigame itself.

Good MTA idea. I'll ask Mod Stu if it's feasible, since he's been doing a lot of F2P stuff lately. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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22-Aug-2017 09:07:54

Lord Drakan
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I guess that is the best solution to go (at least without putting in some work for a proper rework)
It's a fun idea but I doubt it'll ever get off. :/

Mobilising Armies not so much, though. It's actually fun and not bugged/broken, just needs a rework of the controls and balancing. But nooooo got to remove that too. :( Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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24-Aug-2017 13:55:48

Rikornak
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Maybe some other thought for the halos: The equivalent of that invisible bonus is quite varying depending on the source used (+15, +16.5 - I've even read something about +33) - I would change them directly to a +15 visible prayer bonus, as I do not really think that mechanic is worth to be kept and would certainly perform better as an universal bonus (alone in terms of future-proofing for new prayers/curses). Additionally the halos should get a +17 (t70 equivalent) power bonus (saradomin strength, guthix ranged, zamorak magic). Treat them like jewellery: no armour bonus, no defence requirement.

I guess the three big issues the faithful shield has is it is extremely expensive (200 gold tickets just need a lot of time to be obtained - but this is a general cw issue, not directly related to the shield), the general issue all hybrid armour suffers from (this 15 tiers nerf) and the fact shields are extremely niche (and are generally neglected besides defenders, spirit shields and t90 ones). I think a few steps to fix it would be:

- Reduce the hybrid tier penalty to 5 tiers (yes I know this is a general issue, but one of the main reasons why this kind of armour lacks use). I am not sure though if defensive abilities consider the nerfed shield tier, but if so it should be changed to the actual one (a t90 shield should count as t90 and not t75 (or t85 with my suggestion))
- Allow the shield to be scaled to tier 70 and 85 with sufficient defence levels. The 85 variant also features an tier 80 (it is still hybrid nerfed) health bonus and doesn't degrade
- Upgrade the prayer bonus to +6 (do this as well with the falador shield 4 - or upgrade it even to +7 and falador 4 to +6)
- Allow it to boost the potency of defensive prayers/curses (protect from/deflect x and many of the seren curses) by 15 %
- I think for more it would need work in terms of defensive abilties, but the shield per se wouldn't be lacking any more

/updated a few more thoughts Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

24-Aug-2017 16:19:52 - Last edited on 24-Aug-2017 18:53:27 by Rikornak

Rikornak
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Added: double or treble the price of the botanist's outfit; factory gear is thrice the current price.

Factory is significantly more powerful than botanist - it may not be on elite outfit level, but it certainly is more valuable than a few percent more xp - with both good effects inside the game and outside for herblore (the only situation where botanist shines if you own both is cleaning herbs, due to the lack of granting the bonus to factory) - the difference is more than justified

Also - you would once more only hit the players not having the set yet - be it from TH or the factory Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

27-Aug-2017 10:36:09 - Last edited on 27-Aug-2017 10:40:51 by Rikornak

Lord Drakan
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Added: double or treble the price of the botanist's outfit; factory gear is thrice the current price.

Factory is significantly more powerful than botanist - it may not be on elite outfit level, but it certainly is more valuable than a few percent more xp - with both good effects inside the game and outside for herblore (the only situation where botanist shines if you own both is cleaning herbs, due to the lack of granting the bonus to factory) - the difference is more than justified

Also - you would once more only hit the players not having the set yet - be it from TH or the factory
I'm not saying it should be the same price, but the current set costs 4000 Brianpoints. That's a mere 23 games with maximum score. Compared to other skill outfits, that's awfully fast to get.

But if you advise against it, sure. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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28-Aug-2017 06:52:13

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