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Draco Burnz
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What do you expect to be done then?

You say something needs to be done but dont say what exactly.

Plus you do know prices are controlled by the community right?

So if you expect jagex to be able to fix it, you're barking up the wrong tree.
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24-Sep-2022 03:09:06 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 03:09:31 by Draco Burnz

Jack Flac
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What do you expect to be done then?

You say something needs to be done but dont say what exactly.

Plus you do know prices are controlled by the community right?

So if you expect jagex to be able to fix it, you're barking up the wrong tree. Jagex has a huge part in it by how they have decided to release things. Drop rates very extremely low, released not in one piece, but in multiple fragments. Sometimes which piece you get is even timegated, case in point Noxious weapons. All these things are designed to artificially increase the price. Leader of The Enemy ||
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24-Sep-2022 03:28:28

Rikornak
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Can you give me a serious reason as to why gear has to be so prohibitively expensive that most players in the game will never be able to afford it, and it only unbalances pvp so that players that can not participate in high level pvm will never have a chance of competeing with those who can. Hell, even those who can participate in high level pvm may never truly have a chance of competeing with how shitty the rates are. We need to actually do something about this. High level gear can't just be locked to the top 1% that can afford it. It doesn't mean a t95 should be 10K, but making everything worth several multitudes of a max cash stack because why the hell not just makes for a shittier game for everybody involved.

I haven't lost a single word about gear has to be prohibitively expensive - but to fair: that always was like this (the only notable exception are drygores (or some RSC/early RS2 things) - or have you been equipped BiS at all times and just fail now with that bow?). An abyssal whip when it first was released also was way over 100m. And that's basically just a 1/512 drop from a monster, that hardly ever could have been considered strong. And 100m then can't even closely be compared to 100m now.

Most equipment will lose that insane value over time and at least for PvM you're not put at a grave disadvantage when you just get one tier lower. T92 is much more afordable - also something that historically not always was the case, that you just could go grab one tier lower - you often had to grab six or seven items worse than the BiS one - and the game wasn't so graceful to allow you to progress one up, just by releasing a new one. But for some oddly reason, that always was fine. I say it again: Nobody would rant in here if Jagex would have decided to lock certain pieces of equipment behind specific thresholds, yet they decided to give players a shot at them, even at the extremely easy story mode. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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24-Sep-2022 06:32:03 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 07:00:05 by Rikornak

Rikornak
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There is no reason to be salty, that Jagex wants players to do the real fight for the best odds per hour, while not going for some insanely ludicrous enrage rates (again: it progresses a bit further and caps out eventually). We still have fair chances to get the stuff at lower ones if we do not want to progress further. Why wasn't this an issue at Telos (and by far Telos never would be something for everybody even at 0 %), where you barely have chances at uniques if you're not willing to do the real deal, why wasn't this an issue for the Arch-Glacor, where you literally can't get most drops at all? There are a lot of posts with players struggling to get their components - and that's also a t95 weapon, that certainly has a lot of worse rates to obtain it. But yeah - Jagex just said - hard mode only in the first place.

I mean - as for pvp it's just so insanely obvious Jagex does not care at all and to be fair they just should start adapting their OS systems globally for that if they do again - globally, not just for select games. Providing players stats, selectable equipment and supplies they can use in there, so players would have an even playing ground for once in 22 years of runescape . And then give them some passive damage reduction on top, so fights would be more than bursting one another down due to RNG.

Or was it not an issue, that players were able to burn millions over millions using ancient magics, while players who did not want (or even were able to do so) are not able to keep up in the first place - for content, that literally offers no compensation for this - so the only options a lot of players have is ruining themselves or just enduring to remain at the receiving end of a curb stomp battle? Take a look at OS SW, how well you would be able to keep up, if you're not doing this, if you need a reminder. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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24-Sep-2022 06:32:22 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 07:43:35 by Rikornak

Rikornak
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As for PvM - I actually wonder how players were able to beat previous content, while this new equipment wasn't a thing. How are ironmen able to keep up, who are not even able to bypass getting the drop by simply buying it?

Going full circle - Most players do not want to 100 % in solo, because it is not solo friendly. I said before I am all for fixing that - now, not in 5 years or so. So this obviously this whole thing shouldn't be an issue then if Jagex were to do this. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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24-Sep-2022 07:18:11 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 07:44:28 by Rikornak

Robbycool
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lmao i just got bolg at 100 % wooot

this is relevand because I'm not just a crybaby who cant beat zammy 100 %

I am advocating for those players less skilled than me bump

24-Sep-2022 09:37:23 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 09:51:38 by Robbycool

Loch Ars
Sep Member 2022

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Seriously, why do people think best-in-slot gear should be easy to obtain or common? Either put in the time to get better at a specific piece of content or just accept you will have to buy it, possibly when supply has gone up a bit and brought the prices down. If you want a unique drop from a boss that is easy to kill, give the giant mole or the king black dragon a go.

(I also think that bad luck mitigation for tradeable drops has been a terrible idea from the get-go.)

24-Sep-2022 13:29:11

Dilbert2001
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Seriously, why do people think best-in-slot gear should be easy to obtain or common? Either put in the time to get better at a specific piece of content or just accept you will have to buy it, possibly when supply has gone up a bit and brought the prices down. If you want a unique drop from a boss that is easy to kill, give the giant mole or the king black dragon a go.



Usually I just buy these "best-in-slot" gear whenever I need them and the prices are right. The fact we can buy all BiS gear in RS3 with gp plus making gp in RS3 is quite easy for knowledgeable players make RS3 almost impossible to be an "elitist game".

See how much are the street prices of the BiS gear?

Zuk Sword - 1.8 bil only
FSOA - 2.8 bil
Even the by far the newest Bow of the Last Guardian is selling in the 6 bil range only,

TBH, anybody who knows the game knows how to get a few bil gp in a not so long timeframe. In the last 4 days, I made 700 mil gp just from running the good old EDs before ED4 plus a few clue scrolls here and thre. ED2 alone gave me double BSD codex drop and Astellan gave me one time his codex. That's over 450 mil gp already.

Even those long lapsed and returning players should not find any elitism in RS3 either. They don't even have to know about EDs, EGW, GWD2 and Telos, AoD, Solak, Rago, KK and whatnots, let alone being elitists in them, for even the good old Nex and Araxxor they used to slaughter like flies still make them enough fortune in 2022 to buy the quite affordable BiS gear.

Making gp in RS3 to buy BiS gear is just about knowledge and not elitism. Thanks to the very sound totally player driven economy, there are not even bourgeoisies in RS3, let alone elitists.

24-Sep-2022 17:40:21 - Last edited on 24-Sep-2022 18:06:48 by Dilbert2001

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