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Deltaslug

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Guess add these here as well ... maybe?

- Mystic Robe Seller - either make a copy of the NPC, or move him from Yanille to somewhere on the F2P map. Now F2P (or at least ironmen) can access the Mystic Robes, Wand, and Orb.
(Wizard Guild w/ level 66 entry requirement, should not be selling level 50 gear)

- Oziach's Shop - Have him Sell Blue D-hide bodies and mystic robe top

- Mystic Staffs - (referring to the Level 40 2h staffs), have them re-tiered to Level 50 to match the naming of Mystic Robes, Mystic Wand, Mystic Orb

- Shop update - have shops sell up to the Rune tier of equipment. ie: Bob's Axes sells Rune Hatchets and Rune BattleAxes, Al Kharid Scimitar Shop sells up to Rune Scimitars, Burthrope 2H sword shop sells Rune 2handers

18-Aug-2017 21:40:10 - Last edited on 23-Jan-2018 02:01:27 by Deltaslug

Rikornak
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While I do agree with having a mystic equipment vendor in the champions guild (bodies at oziach), I do not support him being removed in the wizards guild. He is practically the sole reason to enter that place besides for purchasing stones of binding. Also a second vendor could be potentially be helpful for invention - depending on which materials get used even more in the future.

On the other hand I do not think free players should be able to obtain tier 50 equipment (except for tools) outside of the champions guild (and oziach for the bodies) - with the exception of crafting or trading them directly - and with the release of the mining/smithing rework there won't be even an excuse for ironmen anymore. The guild should be the thing to go for free players - and not some random store. I think the only exception in a f2p area could be the bandit duty free store in the wilderness - otherwise t50+ stuff in stores should remain p2p only.

If you want to use it I've already written an almost (okay completed it now) full f2p store revamp (and a basic one for p2p stores) in here:

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Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

18-Aug-2017 22:43:30 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2017 07:55:07 by Rikornak

Rikornak
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Mystic staves have no relation to the mystic set besides sharing a name (they also were tier 40, when the mystic set still was tier 30) - I'll include my post from your thread for the tierscape issue with staves

Rikornak said :
Going for fact-checking in here:

We got staves at tier 1, 25 (available to players that should be past 25 at that point), 30 (the slightly expensive battlestaff), 40 (the way too expensive mystic staff), dungeoneering related staves at 45, 53 and 55 degrading - and the ancient staff at tier 50, which also shouldn't be available for most players at level 50. And this even is every staff at those levels ingame - not a restricted f2p set. Tiers 60 and higher are pretty balanced, but could at least use some polishing in the 60/65 niche.

I'll have to agree with draco on this one: That issue isn't solved by just moving a few staves around in their tier - of course staves with orbs attached could again be higher tiered than those without, but those actually always were just for granting infinite elemental runes, not a stat booster - and would still leave so many item holes open.

As I said - introduce flechting staves - the whole concept has always worked great in dungeoneering - and move battle/mystic staves into gap tiers (as the former also are used for crafting training - which likely is the reason for their price). I personally had suggested: Fletchable staves at tiers 1, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 - the battlestaff at 45 and the mystic staff at 55 (which would give this thing a niche for interested players wanting to minmax, for basic tier 50 gear this thing just is too expensive). Of course that solution isn't as simple - but it would fix the issue for all levels once and for all. Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

18-Aug-2017 22:56:51 - Last edited on 18-Aug-2017 23:22:35 by Rikornak

Rikornak
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Got some construction QoL (in order to get players at least somewhat away from proteans):

- Servants should be able to return and fetch stuff in the same step, allow players to choose a predefined option for the latter (type and amount), remove confirmations for the former (they just should take all used items of the type used on them)
- Demon and monkey butlers should have an inventory space of 28, so they'll be able to take all your stuff and return a full inventory of your demanded items.

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Remove all attack options on chins in all hunter area's.

You can already toggle your attacking behaviour in the combat settings to right-click or disable it entirely - this was introduced straight for this and is quite useful for chins or lower leveled pickpocketing Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

19-Aug-2017 07:26:28 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2017 08:09:33 by Rikornak

Lord Drakan
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Suggestion: update Invention prismatic pendants to match the skill colours.
Which do you mean? If you're referring to the pendants of skill from the SoF, I doubt that's going to happen, since they've been discontinued for a while. What are Invention pendants, though?

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Remove all attack options on chins in all hunter area's.
Looks like that's been answered.

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Guess add these here as well ... maybe?

- Mystic Robe Seller - either make a copy of the NPC, or move him from Yanille to somewhere on the F2P map. Now F2P (or at least ironmen) can access the Mystic Robes, Wand, and Orb.
(Wizard Guild w/ level 66 entry requirement, should not be selling level 50 gear)

- Oziach's Shop - Have him Sell Blue D-hide bodies and mystic robe top

- Mystic Staffs - (referring to the Level 40 2h staffs), have them re-tiered to Level 50 to match the naming of Mystic Robes, Mystic Wand, Mystic Orb

- Shop update - have shops sell up to the Rune tier of equipment. ie: Bob's Axes sells Rune Hatchets and Rune BattleAxes, Al Kharid Scimitar Shop sells up to Rune Scimitars, Burthrope 2H sword shop sells Rune 2handers
I don't think mystic robes should be obtainable this easily; they are generally unique Slayer drops, which maintains the robes' value, with an additional option to buy them from the Wizards' Guild (which, I agree, needs a full rework) for richer, higher-levelled mages. Also, recall that F2P have access to level 50 battle robes, which are best-in-slot for them, I think.

As for Oziach; yeah, good idea.

Mystic staves, as far as I know, have no relation to mystic robes whatsoever, other than a similarity in naming. Perhaps necromancer's staves could be boosted to level 50, though?

The shop update would have to be part of a full shop rework, I fear, and I don't think this is ninja material, sorry. :/ Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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19-Aug-2017 09:05:56

Rikornak
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Suggestion: update Invention prismatic pendants to match the skill colours.
Which do you mean? If you're referring to the pendants of skill from the SoF, I doubt that's going to happen, since they've been discontinued for a while. What are Invention pendants, though?

When they discontiuned the skill pendants in favour to bxp they added a purely cosmetic variant that can be claimed at diango by every player. Originally you could use it to enable the style of the pendants you previously owned, but they dropped that restriction and even added styles for divination and invention Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
Quick Fixes: Invention

19-Aug-2017 09:11:10 - Last edited on 19-Aug-2017 09:11:51 by Rikornak

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