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Mar

2013

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31 August 2015 - had a few months break

Bowl:
In the Scythe Region, skip the Cherrywood Golem and use the Feral Chimera.

Once you get to the Bowl, and for that matter, at each new region, you will stop spending the previous currency. Hence, upgrade the port with any currency you may have. I went through and upgraded my ship bonuses, getting better crew, attracting the cook, and my portal.

This Bowl region is just hard. These voyages take about 10+ hours each, so use your rerolls to find voyages you can do. I ended up doing quite a few 10.5k single trait voyages. These were between 91-98% to start. A few voyages later, I was at 100% by getting two of each crew type from the bowl.

Note Judge of Dice costs 1k, most new crew cost 200, and special about 450

The after a few Bowl voyages and getting the special voyage ( at 94% ) to get the Judge of Dice ( new kind of 1st Mate ) and the Golem, I have:

Crew Rankings:
Maxed . . Trait . Per
Moral . . .8130 . 8130
Combat .7765 . 7765
Sea . . . . .8285 . 8285
M+C . . . .9385 . 4692
M+S . . .10260 . 5130
C+S . . . . 9310 . 4655
M+C+S .12610 . 4203

Ship . Trait
Moral . . .11080
Combat .11165
Sea . . . . . 11185
M+C . . . .13160
M+S . . . .14035
C+S . . . .13508
M+C+S . 16526

Port Bonus:
Trait . . . .w/Sea . Total
Moral . . . 11412 . 11412
Combat . 11499 . 11499
Sea . . . . . 11743 . 11520
M+C . . . .13554 . .6777
M+S . . . . 14614 . .7228
C+S . . . . .13913 . .6956
M+C+S . .17179 . .5673

25 crew
6 moral: 2 bowl, 4 Scythe
6 combat: 2 bowl, 4 Scythe
6 sea: 2 bowl, 4 Scythe

1 c+s: Siren Whalerider (pretty weak now at lvl 7 compared to other crew)
2 m+c: Feral Chimera ( lvl 8 ) Jade Golem ( lvl 1 )
1 m+s: Sea Witch ( lvl 8 ) very useful

3 1st Mates: 2 Bureaucrats ( lvl 8/9 ), 1 Judge of dice My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:58:13

Mar

2013

Uncl

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6 September 2015

currently 16% through the Bowl.

I'm ONLY doing 2-4 voyages a day, as these are 10+ hours each.

I'm doing a lot more single trait voyages, as my crew just isn't good enough to get to double or triple trait voyages. By far, I'm rarely doing my 100% voyages, typically 95%, rare occasions 90%. I can see boosts, from the mini-games, being useful at this point.

As I'm only doing 2-4 voyages daily, I'm using my voyage rerolls often. Non-Bowl region voyages are extremely rare.

Prior to this point, keeping 3 Arc region crew seemed to ensure lower level voyages were available. However, given the harshness of this region, keeping lower level crew does not appear to be an option.

Up to this point, I have basically kept 3, 2,500, captains ( M/C/S ), but I'm getting new voyages with better traits so I've added two new captains. We'll see how they do.

A ton of crew are coming up with negative traits.
I have finally purchased 3 ea of Bowl M/C/S and 2 Jude of Dice. The total should be 2,600, but the actual cost is closer 4,200. At 150 per trip, instead of 18 trips to buy all my crew, it's more than 28 ~ or an extra week.

Also, I've changed the way I am calculating my max scores and per trait ( next post ). I've switched to averaging the top 7 crew and multiplying by 5, for the trait. This better reflects that a ship will be at sea.

So having my crew, I'm going back to the Hook region for enough slate to get 3 ships. I'm still trying to stick with the idea of keeping the same crew for as long as possible. However, getting 3 ships might mean one is less active.

25 Crew
1 Bureaucrat, 9
2 Judge of Dice, 4, 6

6 Moral, 3 Bowl, 3 Scythe ( 1 lvl 9 )
6 Combat, 3 Bowl, 3 Scythe ( 1 lvl 9 )
6 Sea, 3 Bowl, 3 Scythe ( 1 lvl 9 )

1 Jade Golem ( skip the cherry in the scythe ), lvl 5, M+C
1 Feral Chimera, lvl 8, M+C
1 Siren Whalerider, lvl 7 ( not too useful now ), C+S
1 Sea Witch, lvl 8, M + S My Threads:
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Mar

2013

Uncl

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Crew only:

Trait . . . . .Total . . per
Moral . . . .8320 . 8320
Combat . .7930 . 7930
Sea . . . . . .8520 . 8520
M+C . . . .10410 . 5205
M+S . . . .11085 . 5542
C+S . . . . 10405 . 5202
M+C+* . 13635 . 4545

Ship with 2% Sea bonus and crew:

Moral . . .11608 . 11608
Combat .11669 . 11669
Sea . . . . .11990 . 11762
M+C . . . .14610 . .7305
M+S . . . . 15305 . .7652
C+S . . . . 15041 . . 7520
M+C+S . 18242 . .6025

Single Trait started at 10.5k, but have moved to 14k.
Double Traits started at 5.2k now they are at 7.2k
I haven't seen enough triple trait to take note, but I think they are at 5.8k per trait.
Hence, if I do a double or triple trait, I cannot send out another ship.

Ship:

Figurehead: Ghostly and Battle Ram
The Jade only adds +100, but bowl crew go up by more

Deck: Orante, Eastern, Cannon x3.
These add +400 for both, so could be worth it

Hulls: Storms, War, Golden
I should get Hull of Glory First, will give Moral a boost of 750.
Other Hulls only give a 300 boost over previous stats. Might try to hold off till the next region for the Combat and Sea Hulls

Rudder: Enchanted
Going to wait till the next Region.

Currency:

Chimes: 106k
Bamboo: 19k
Smoke: 20k
Slate: 2,775
Cherrywood: 5,823
Jade: 703

Welcome to the grind

6 September 2015 My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:58:40 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:00:07 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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12 Sept 2015 - 26% complete in Bowl

The Bowl region is feeling more like a reset. A single voyage will take a crew member to about level 2, which is about a level 7/8 Scythe ( the previous region ).

So I think in the last post, I might have had 3 of each bowl region, now I'm trying for 4. However, this was a MISTAKE. The game seems to take into account the region and level of the crew. So all my voyages are pretty hard.

8k ea for double ( mc, ms, cs )
14k is common for single ( m, c, s )
Triple I don't even look at ( msc )

What I should have done is get two of each bowl crew, and continued on to get more Jade.
You'll need 4,500 for the ship deck upgrades and 3,600 for the hull upgrades.

I'm uncertain if you should get the Judge of Dice 1st mates or even do the voyage about 15% ish. Just keep the voyage in the list.

About the captains. I purchased two new 2.5k captains. Judging by the stats, the captains in this region seem to be strong. So before, where I had 1 of each M/C/S captain, I now have 5.
* ( lvl 9 ), 2 C ( 6/7 ), and 2 M ( 7/7 ). The combat and moral from this region have better stats than from the pervious regions. Took a while to get the levels, but clearly they are better.

I think the money in this region is better spent on 2 of each crew, then the ship, then the crew. Just bank the Jade, because getting new crew and upgrades means harder voyages.

Once you have achieved the ship, 2 of each crew, well try for 3 or 4 of each, and then go back for your 3rd ship.

At this point - of ship upgrades, 3 to 4 Bowl crew, 2 Judge of Dice, and a 3rd ship - I should point out, you need about 52k Cherrywood to do everything in ports... so maybe set yourself on the Scythe region until you get to the next region - The Pincers.

Stats in the next section My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:58:51 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:00:32 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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26% Complete on Bowl

If I do send out 3 voyages, it seems two are all single trait, and the 3rd is 2 traits. Hence, 2 1st mates ( Judge of Dice ) seem to be enough.

Maxed . . . Trait . . per
Moral. . . . 8675 . .8675
Combat . .8695 . 8695
Sea . . . . . .8985 . 8985
M+C . . . .11040 . 5520
M+S . . . . 11570 . 5785
C+S . . . . 10975 . 5487
M+C+S . 14005 . 4668

Ship . . . . Trait . . . per
Moral . . . 11973 . 11973
Combat . 12457 . 12457
Sea . . . . 12478 . .12241
M+C . . . .15259 . . 7629
M+S . . . . 15947 . . 7902
C+S . . . . 15628 . . 7814
M+C+S . 18600 . . 6152

Current Crew:
6 M: 3 Bowl ( 6/7/7 ), 3 Scythe ( 8/8/9 )
7 C: 4 Bowl ( 2/6/7/8 ), 3 Scythe ( 7/7/9 )
7 S: 4 Bowl ( 3/6/7/8 ), 3 Scythe ( 7/8/9 )
2 MC: Jade Golem ( 6 ), Feral Chimera ( 8 )
1 MS: Sea Witch ( 9 )
2 MCS: Jude of Dice ( 6/7 )

Removed Lvl 9 First mate and Lvl 9 Siren Whalerider.

Currency:
142k Chimes
17k Bamboo
20k Gunpowder
2.1k Slate
14.8k Cherrywood
1,203 Jade My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:58:56 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:00:59 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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43% Bowl Completed 20 September 2015

At times, I have found it useful to stack a ship's traits all towards one trait to send out crew on dual/triple trait voyages. The little +100 side trait of crew members has been enough to make up the difference for lack of crew because the good ones are out on another voyage.

Voyages have dropped to 6.5 hours each, a rare higher value voyage, up to 8. This is all down from 10+ hours per voyage. Two weeks ago I was struggling between 90 to 99%. Now I'm finally a solid 98%+.

Single voyages have now calmed down to 12k missions
Double voyages are now about 8k
Triple voyages are now at 6.6k and holding

Crew:
Trait . . . . . Max . . per
Moral . . . .9005 . 9005
Combat . .9280 . 9280
Sea . . . . . .9445 . 9445
M+C . . . .11490 . 5745
M+S . . . . 11955 . 5977
C+S . . . . .11455 . 5727
M+C+S . 14480 . 4826

Crew + Ship:
Trait . . . . . Max . . per
Moral . . . 13498 . 13498
Combat . 13472 . 13472
Sea . . . . . 13381 . .13127
M+C . . . .16830 . . .8415
M+S . . . . 17492 . . .8654
C+S . . . . .16534 . . 8267
M+C+S . 20006 . . 6607

Deck: Cannon x4, Eastern Treasure, Whaleskin
Hull: of Glory ( M ), War, Storm

144k Chimes
17.1k Bamboo
21k Gunpowder
3.2k Slate
15.3k Cherrywood
2,971 Jade

Current 25 Crew:
7 M: 4 Bowl ( 4/7/7/8 ), 3 Scythe ( 8/9/9 )
7 C: 4 Bowl ( 6/7/8/9 ), 3 Scythe ( 7/8/9 )
7 S: 4 Bowl ( 6/7/8/9 ), 3 Scythe ( 7/8/9 )
1 MC: Jade Golem ( 7 )
1 MS: Sea Witch ( 9 )
2 MCS: Judge of Dice ( 7/8 )

Removed Feral Chimera

Goal for this coming week is to get 1 more M/C/S crew to replace a lower Scythe member. My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:59:00 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:01:45 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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69% Bowl Completed. 29 September 2015

This Region is very different from all previous regions. Whereas I would have a mix of crew from all regions as I went forward, maybe 1-2 from the current region, the Bowl Region is only about Captains and Crew - so that changes the overall strategy.

I can see myself having 7 Bowl crew at the end of this region, currently I have 6 Bowl for each trait, and 1 Scythe. Except for the Sea Witch and Jade Golem ( mostly-useless )

Through this region keep an eye on captains and keep swapping out 2.5k ( unless you see a 10k - which i haven't yet ). If you see a 2.5k captain, just buy it, maybe dismiss it the next day, maybe train it and wait on your 3rd ship.

Side notes: I average the top 7 crew now, then multiply by 5, and round down. Also, yes, Crew does include the Captain.

Crew:
Trait . . . . .AvgMx . per
M . . . . . . . .9575 . 9575
C . . . . . . . .9565 . 9565
S . . . . . . . . 9680 . 9680
M+C . . . . 11760 . 5880
M+S . . . . 12070 . 6035
C+S . . . . .11570 . 5785
M+C+S . 14350 . 4783

Crew + Ship:
Trait . . .A**Max . . per
M . . . . . . 14188 . 14188
C . . . . . . .13868 . 13868
S . . . . . . . 13943 . 13943
M+C . . . .17467 . . 8733
M+S . . . . 17699 . . 8765
C+S . . . . .17015 . . 8507
M+C+* . 20131 . . .6654

Ship: Fully upgraded with all Jade Items

Crew:
7M: 6 Bowl , 1 Scythe
7C: 6 Bowl, 1 Scythe
7S: 6 Bowl, 1 Scythe
MCS: 2 Judges ( 8/9)
MS: Sea Witch 9
MC: Jade Golem 7

Chimes: 141.1k
Bamboo: 17.1k
Gunpowder: 21.4k
Slate: 3.5k
Cherrywood: 16.4k
Jade: 8.5k My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:59:04 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:02:10 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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4 October 2015

Instead of getting 7 Bowl crew, I just kept 6 and trained them like crazy.

Crew

Trait Per
M . . . . . . . 9575 . 9575
C . . . . . . . 9635 . 9635
S . . . . . . . .9680 . 9680
M+C . . . .11875 . 5937
M+S . . . . 12130 . 6065
C+S . . . .11710 . 5855
M+C+S . 14450 . 4816

Ship
M . . . . . . 14188 . 14188
C . . . . . . .13941 . 13941
S . . . . . . . 13943 . 13678
M+C . . . .17586 . 8793
M+S . . . . 17761 . 8796
C+S . . . . 17159 . 8579
M+C+S . 20234 . 6688

Crew
7 moral, 6 bowl ( 5/6/7/8/9/9 ), 1 Scythe 9
7 combat, 6 bowl ( 6/6/7/8/9/9 ), 1 Scythe 9
7 Sea, 6 bowl ( 6/6/8/9/9 ), 1 Scythe 8
1 ms Seawitch 9
1 mc Jade Golem 8
2 1st mates ( judges ) 9/9 My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:59:08 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:02:29 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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11 Oct 2015

Bowl Complete. Pincers 0%

So the low Single is 14.5k, low double is 8k, and low triple is 6.4k
Naturally I'm not getting 100's, but i'm getting 99% at the start
Looking back at my Bowl, and seeing these numbers, maybe I should have got my crew just a bit earlier. Anyway, here is where I'm at:

Crew:
Trait . . . . .A**Max . Per . . . ( Capt + Crew )/5
Moral . . . 10060 . 10060 . . 2012
Combat . .9970 . . .9970 . . .1994
Sea . . . . . 10120 . .10120 . . .2024
M+C . . . .12180 . . .6090 . . .1218
M+S . . . . 12435 . . . 6217 . . 1243
C+S . . . . 11850 . . . 5925 . . .1185
M+C+S . 14770 . . . 4923 . . . 985

Ship:
Trait . . . . .A**Max . Per
Moral . . . 14687 . . .14687
Combat . 14286 . . .14286
Sea . . . . . .14405 . . .14131
M+C . . . . 17900 . . . .8950
M+S . . . . .18051 . . . .8953
C+S . . . . .17304 . . . .8652
M+C+S . .20540 . . . .6798

As you can see, I'm almost able to do 100% for each single. However, this means I need to reroll until I get a single trait voyage. Doing just one double ( forget triple ) would effectively remove me from my 99s.

Currency:
196k chimes
14k bamboo
21k Gunpowder
255 slate
27k Cherrywood
9.5k Jade
0 Steel

Crew:
7 M, 6 Bowl ( 7/7/8/9/9/10 ), 1 Scythe Lvl 9
7 C, 6 Bowl ( 7/7/8/9/9/9 ), 1 Scythe Lvl 9
7 S, 6 Bowl ( 7/78/9/9/10 ), 1 Scythe Lvl 9
1 ms - SeaWitch Hook Lvl 10
1 mc - Jade Golem ( Bowl ) Lvl 9
2 mcs Bowl Judges/1st mates Lvl 9

You can see I just barely missed having lvl 8+ crew. That little extra 200 ( 100+ per crew ) would have helped me get to 100% instead of 99s. By far, for me, the combat crew were the least useful crew in this region.

Also, I should note, I've gone through 4 captains in the bowl region. Currently, my captains are:

M lvl 9 Hook
C lvl 8 Bowl
S lvl 9 Hook
S lvl 6 Bowl

The Bowl region and their stats just seem to be a lot better and they level up pretty fast. Seriously consider 6 new captains. My Threads:
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03-Dec-2015 19:59:12 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2015 20:02:52 by Uncl

Mar

2013

Uncl

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18th Oct 2015

Pincers 9%

My first week of Bowl I was at 16%, so this region will take 10 weeks or so. Anyway, learning from my experience about bad traits in the bowl, I decided to save up all my Steel. Now I have about 5.3k ( was 4.9k on Sunday ) Steel saved up and I need to figure out how to spend it. So far I have purchased 1 M and 1 S crew, and set myself back to Scythe whilst I figure out the money.

Time to read Kags threads:

Kags' POP Encyclopedia V3
Kags' POP Encyclopedia V4 - WORKS IN PROGRESS

I'll say this, the first week always gave me the lowest voyage total possible. Upon reaching day 8, harder voyages appeared. I could do 3 single voyage, or 1 single and 2 double voyages w/o issues ( at 99 to 100% ) during the first week.

Also, I got my first ever 10k captain However, all my good captains seem to be seafaring

I noticed I can update my port for better crew and captains in specific traigs. Just wondering if I should do the bar or the sleeping place first. Either way, I have 10k Jade to play with, we'll see. I think I should do crew first, then ship, but with my crew, the ship might be first this time around ~ it's complicated.

In the mean time, I'm leveling up my crew and doing rerolls in hops of getting a combat specific one from this region.

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