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ZazzyAlways
Oct Member 2023

ZazzyAlways

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You are going to mess everything up a second time! You, somehow, remain out of touch with the community yet claim to work closely with it.

This is Old School, we play it for the reason it’s like the old RuneScape 2. I can’t believe everyone how stupid this proposed update is and how, even in the face of huge player backlash, you would choose to continue it at all!

23-Jan-2021 05:19:00

Torplex

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Btw: POLL IT FFS!. It is how the game was supposed to be!! I'm not afraid of it becomming eoc or anything like that, but this is a huuuuge ass promis you are going to break Jagex, and it will 100% ruin most of people's trust in you. Saying one thing and doing the opposite is never a good idea.. Poll it, and maybe even change the polling system? Make it so that people have to read your thoughts before they can vote. Explain to them how it's because of the powercreep, that it's for the games best.. Make them understand WHY this is necessary! Cause you can't just force it upon us, saying it's for the best of the game as a blanket statement, and then at the same time do minimal work to remove bots. That's some dishonest bullshit, and everyone knows it.

And in the future, think before making new content, don't just make new stuff, and then 6 years late go "oh yeah, this is OP and has been since release... Better now then never, right? hehehehehe".......

23-Jan-2021 05:19:59

Torplex

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Four Life said :
The changes seem pretty reasonable and a creative freshener to gameplay.

Everyone is freaking out about nerfing the Black Dhide but it is extremely cheap. Karils is better than the dhide even pre-nerf so go spend a few mil and upgrade.


Either you like pvp, or you stay out of the wilderness at all cost..... Point being: There is no way in hell people would bring 2.4 mil into wildy as expendable burner gear XD So when this update happens, they'll either have to bring gear made out of paper that's not even worth it's alch value, or like you want, 2.4Mil worth.. Either way, dumb as hell.

23-Jan-2021 05:31:06 - Last edited on 23-Jan-2021 05:33:49 by Torplex

oTAIo
Dec Member 2022

oTAIo

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You want to hear our feedback? Then listen to all your reading I’ve seen nothing but complaints about this so far and I agree you should have polled this that is the way OSRS brings in new content. You were afraid it would fail if you polled it? Fine that’s the way it has to be since you all decided that we get to choose what we want added or removed you can’t take a survey of selected percipients to decide on changes like this that’s essentially rigging the polls to get the outcome you want. You fear for the health of the game? Devote all these terrible ideas into dealing with the plague of bots that’s really destroying the game.

This is ridiculous the nerfs suck but ok we can adapt and move on but the fact your not going to poll a change this drastic is inexcusable I hope you see the effect of your choices and actually listen to us. There’s my feedback even though I’m sure you don’t care what we think

23-Jan-2021 05:58:08

Unaging
Oct Member 2020

Unaging

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It really doesn’t make sense to ruin and destroy all of the niche built accounts with thousands of hours work. If you’re proposing a tier rework. , why don’t you make it so these items will require higher strength level to wear but with the same attack level required. I just don’t understand how you will completely destroy a whole lot of 75 attack accounts without them even giving their opinion about this matter. Since you will also nerf blowpipe , these accounts will never be able to keep up with the main accounts dps , let alone boss properly . There is literally no other strength training weapon that can be worn in one hand except a dragon scimitar , since wearing any of the rapier/saeldor/ inq/ scythe will be taken away. I understand that other gear such as Twisted Bow will also have upper requirements but as we know that magic and ranged doesn’t affect combat levels much. Not only the nerfs will put these accounts to only being usable in pvp , also it will make it nearly impossible for these types of accounts to pvm except low defence level monsters that would be killable with a bludgeon or a blessed ss . One of the coolest quirks of this game is being able to create unique accounts based around a certain combat bracket. Pvp accounts do not only do pvp , or building certain accounts doesn’t have to mean they will have to pvp. But if this is 2021 and if you only put out 3 1 handed 75 tier weapons that can train strength other than the dragon scimitar , it is really unbalancing to take this feature away from these accounts. Please let us have our say , through a poll as this is only going to ruin so many accounts.

23-Jan-2021 06:21:47

Jendor IV

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About time some of this overpowered weapons gets adjusted!
I will also propose to change more of the early game weapons,
and change the defensive stats of alot of the lower and mid lvl
mobs, to encourage use of different weapon types. It has
bothered me that the only weapon with sense to use is the scim.

Blowpipe is not realy oldschool, and it has made all of the real
oldschool metodes obsoleate. Stats and attack styles have
allways been part of the game, and adjusting of these is not EOC.
If people is afraid of not have it oldschool enough, they could
go back to use rune scim and magic shortbow.

This update goes far way to make the game playable for the future,
with room for introdusing new gear into the game. The way to go
further is to make nishes, because that will help to keep a more
stabile marked for gear, since more gear will have actual use in game.

Magic is a little underpowered compared to the cost of use. A little
buff of some magic spells and weapons is due. But, but, these buffs
need not come as freebies. These buffs can come as ingame items,
like tje proposed water tome from the fishing boss.
One ide for the iban staff can be to introduse an upgrade to the staff,
as a drop from a slayer creature inbetween lvl 40-50, since this bracket
dont have so many useful drops. This upgrade will give increased
magic accurasy against non-humanoids.



J-mods keep up the good work.

23-Jan-2021 06:26:02

The Spyer
Apr Member 2017

The Spyer

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I would like to point out the dramatic F2P changes. No one, and I mean no one, has mentioned this. You are now introducing lowered defensive stats to the BIS legs for pures (F2P and P2P basically) AND increased offensive stats to what will be the best F2P weapon in the game in PvP.

Just food for thought, most people see blowpipe and they stop, but if anyone looked at warhammers...... they would agree that warhammers are now the meta for all pure pking, forevermore until this is changed.

Otherwise, the only controversial topics would be..

Bulwark - one purpose: Save me
After nerf: I hope they don't mage

That's about it, everything else seems like it would target mains, 75 atk pures will suffer but I guess that's the game.

Anyways, good luck everyone post EOC2.

23-Jan-2021 06:32:15

Vlrohm
Jun Member 2014

Vlrohm

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The blowpipe nerf is looking great. Finally, just sadly a few years late, and now it will be hard to get it through becase many original old school players have quit and the current player base is used to easyscape already. Making some stuff harder again is by no means a bad thing.

I disagree with some of the other changes though, they don't seem to be well thought through (for example making dinhs even more useless than it already is, and giving warhammers 1 attack). I also don't like to see oldschool items like dragonhide changed so much.

23-Jan-2021 06:58:40

Apex Dank

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I'd say this is a start.. i still hate that the nightmare staff can 1 hit me at 80 combat. This game doesnt really resemble 2007 runescape.. like at all. It's more of a mix of Runescape 3 with the old graphics and less "newer" things to do. Regardless this little bit of tweaking isnt going to save the combat in this game. I cant believe it took yall 15 years to do something about the warhammers and other equipment deemed virtually useless, lol. The wilderness is dead aswell, should try and fix that a bit too, full world pvp, pretty lame. Bounty hunter was better than that. Certainly hope yall figure it all out...

23-Jan-2021 07:00:08

Sneed38
Apr Member 2023

Sneed38

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I don't think you should nerf the blowpipe. Maybe nerf some of the lower tier darts and add a new type of dart (crystal, amethyst, etc). If there is too much concern about blowpipe being too powerful for pvm then why not add more monsters that are resistant to ranged? Nerfing the bp will disadvantage people getting fire cape or infernal cape for the first time, and if the goal is rebalancing, it shouldn't make older content of the game harder in the process. As for raids 3 rewards- we don't need a new ranged weapon. Ranged gloves would be fine, but ruining a weapon that so many players (especially mid-level) are dependent on and then replacing it with a weapon that will be far more expensive is not a good way to keep people playing.

I think the goal of rebalancing should be to make gear better, not worse. For example, the elder maul is as rare as tbow yet is less useful than a blugdeon. It should be more useful for its rarity.

23-Jan-2021 07:58:04

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