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Feldip
Jul Member 2006

Feldip

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>Items like the Toxic Blowpipe, Twisted Bow and Scythe of Vitur garnered the most powercreep-related concerns.

>Generally we’re happy with where the Twisted Bow sits. Against monsters with a high Magic level its power is unmatched. But this also means it isn’t the best option for every monster you encounter, making it easier for us to balance new challenges around it (we can ensure a creature is weak to Ranged in general, but not particularly vulnerable to the Twisted Bow).


This is kinda the wrong game to be bucking the poll system and nerfing stuff willy nilly, but since you don't really care here's an acceptable argument - once you nerf the blowpipe under the proposal the twisted bow will indeed be the best against everything, as it was probably intended anyway.

Also when are you going to revert the pickpocketing and granite maul integrity updates? They didn't work, always tons of bots doing ardy knights and granite mauls spiked to 200k.

21-Jan-2021 21:45:29 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2021 21:48:45 by Feldip

ziekeman046

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Don't touch the blowpipe and bulwark.
Giving the bulwark a negative magic defence bonus is stupid. Let us have a chance to escape 3 guys barraging us when we're doing diaries or clues in the wildy. If you want to nerf it, nerf the offensive bonus or make it take 5 ticks to equip or something.
Leave the game alone in general and fix the horrible account security instead.

21-Jan-2021 21:45:40

Neoxtao

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I still think it is BS that they dont POLL these things but still,
I dont mind most but the BLOWPIPE does not need a nerf.

Im an Iron man and it took me 3 months (over 600KC) to get the BP since i have limited time to play,
And with this nerf its only a little beter than a MSB wich seems like completer BS to me. Please dont let this game turn out like RS3 especially the EOC crap

21-Jan-2021 21:48:32

GravyJonesII
Nov Member 2023

GravyJonesII

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Its honestly disheartening seeing so many people opposed to any type of changes. Don't listen to the naysayers--changes need to happen. Consider being a new player and seeing the wide variety of weapons, but finding out its a complete waste of time to use anything but scimitars to train your stats; where is the fun in that? Updating the maces, warhammers, and battleaxes would enforce learning a variety of monsters' weaknesses, and encourages using a variety of weaponry to tackle each foe. Same goes for the blowpipe. I don't find it fun at all to default to using the blowpipe in the vast majority of circumstances-im a huge fan of using crossbows but they're just outclassed outside of niche situations, and its just so boring.
I know people are really going to hate this, but I really like the tier structure that RS3 has embraced. It creates a clear division between the tiers of equipment and properly reflects said equipment's strength. This type of system would enable the devs to create new content, and properly implement it without convoluting and confusing the hierarchy of previous gear. New, late game content coming out? Make it tear 85 or 90 to solidify that. Med content being released? place it in the tier 60-70 bracket. This just makes sense to me.
I know everyone is preconditioned to hate on RS3, but honestly if they'd take a minute to actually try and analyze much of the systems used, they'd see much of it has brought a high quality of life to the game and secured its longevity with those decisions. I'm a die hard OSRS man at heart, I originally started playing the game back in 2003, played through till 2010, and ive played OSRS since its release 8 years ago. I love this game, and I have the utmost faith the devs will properly implement these changes in the appropriate ways.
Much Love!!

21-Jan-2021 21:50:27

Tweezr
Dec Member 2019

Tweezr

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Love the ideas to nerf d'hide. But what if blessed d'hide became it's own armor, so that it wasn't nerfed? The problem with black d'hide is that it's so cheap. Blessed holds value, so keeping the current stats would encourage people to bring risk to wildy. It would also give a new armor tier between black d hide and armadyl.

21-Jan-2021 21:55:32

Dojebon
Jul Member 2020

Dojebon

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I don't know how much of this feedback is actually taken into account given how these are changes that will not be polled at all, but here goes.

I agree that the blowpipe needed a nerf, but you are way too ambitious here. You cut its attack in half and the ranged strength almost at the same rate. On top of that all the darts suffer a minor decrease in accuracy too which renders the blowpipe even less effective. The whole idea behind these suggestions were if I recall correctly the mindset that some items that are too easily accessible are too overpowered. Yet items such as the dragon crossbow, which is even more accessible than the blowpipe becomes the more viable alternative at places where high accuracy is a must and ranged defense is rather high. This goes against what you were trying to preach. The blowpipe nerf is justified, but needs to be a lot milder. This is not a nerf but a devastating blow.

Neitiznot Faceguard: this one just rubs me the wrong way. There was no call from any corner to nerf this item. The neitiznot faceguard is an item that is locked behind a series of quests and costs a LOT of money. It is not "easily accessible" to all. It is the best in slot melee helm and now you are trying to strip its sole advantage over the serpentine helm, so that you can release a new BIS item in raids 3 that will more than likely cost an insane amount due to its rarity. 20m+ for a basilisk jaw is not an investment that every player can easily make. This nerf is uncalled for and just paves the way for you to release new items to replace the current BiS item, which will on their turn be nerfed in a few years if you decide it's time for Raids 4, let's not kid ourselves.

21-Jan-2021 21:55:35

yo itz ep
Mar Member 2019

yo itz ep

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I can get behind the increased requirements for endgame gear.
but I fear the nerfs for d'hide, bp, dinhs bulwark are going too far.

Especially the nerf for the dinh's bulwark i find ridiculous.
This shield was supposed to be one of the best shield in game, thats why you need 2 hands for it. They already nerfed its mage defence away and their defensive abilty doesnt work in pvp.
The shield has been on a price decline since the beginning, because it's basically only useful for tanking.

I have one and I sometimes use it when i want to catch some black chins in the wildy (combined with black d hide). With the proposed nerfs, hunting black chins will be even worse of an activity. Maybe good for gold farmers with low acc hunters though.

This nerf makes the dinh's bulwark completely irrelevant and useless. Jagex should just remove the dinh's bulwark if they dislike it that much. If they nerf the shield this much I will most definitely alch it. Why stop mining at lvl 99?

21-Jan-2021 21:56:51

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