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Gumper

Gumper

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You can’t not poll something because you think it will fail?

Last time you guys went in this direction we ended up with a micro transaction goblin and a poor mans world of Warcraft combat system.

The issue isn’t so much the actual nerf itself, but rather your decision to move forward with something that you knew would be a big deal for your community. Everything that is worth discussing should be polled. Disappointed to say the least.

22-Jan-2021 17:38:05

spellwrought
Nov Member 2022

spellwrought

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"Second thing: You've changed the game so much that it doesn't look like Old School whatsoever, like the older days of the game.

Third thing: The blowpipe nerf is far too hard"

Contradicting yourself there buddy. Nerfing blowpipe is great news for RCB and MSB, and those are more RS2 than blowpipe ever was. Waiting for group ironman.

22-Jan-2021 17:41:14

Zeroer
Mar Member 2017

Zeroer

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I don’t understand the nerf to Dinh’s bulwark. Pkers are mad they splash on the shield but they are wearing salad robes while you are paying a premium wearing Karils + Dinh’s. If the pkers had ahrims they may not splash so much! They aren’t risking a premium but you are therefore you should have an advantage. Another point is nobody is out here dying to a 2h shield... people wearing the Dinh’s are just running from these pkers... it’s a 1 sided fight. Dinh’s should remain untouched.

22-Jan-2021 17:43:51

DorogonRamen
Mar Member 2023

DorogonRamen

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This rebalancing is definitely aimed towards the mid tier players. Completely unfair to just touch items mainly used by the mid tier players when the real unbalanced weapons are the top tier ones, like the Twisted Bow and the Scythe or the Dragon bane weaponry. If you really want to make this a better game how about we please start with balancing some of those high cranking weapons ?

22-Jan-2021 18:09:06

IronLouuu
Oct Member 2023

IronLouuu

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First post ever please be gentle (unlike this un-polled Jagex proposal to ruin blowpipe...)

Couple major thoughts:
-As an ironman, i made my account ~ 1 year ago and a huuugeee goal has been getting blowpipe so i can do some bosses. Now, i'm just about zulrah-ready and the blowpipe becomes useless, seemingly for all purposes except mid-game range training (if a player can afford it). Please no. Meet us halfway, maybe reduce a max hit but leave the accuracy untouched. This nerf is disheartening to even consider. I would rather see blowpipe removed from game than nerfed this hard, tbh.
-Rune weaponry/armor updates are long overdue but won't impact the game (when is last time you saw someone with a rune weapon in mems world? It only takes a few hours to get from 40-50/60 attack)
-I'm not sure you've really increased much variety in weapon - you just changed tiers from 75 to 85 and then buffed f2p gear. Barrows weapons are useless, excluding set effect. can you increase attack speed or stats or something? I've never seen torags hammers used in my life.
-please consider polling the more substantial changes (not all of them) , i don't want to see this game ruined, again. Avoid at all cost anything EOC-esque.
-Dragonbone necklace is still entirely useless, not even considering it's incredible rarity. Make it either 1) a common drop, or 2) a useful item.
-Dragonhide armor is supposed to have high magic defense, hence the combat triangle. if you are attempting to make room for a new-tier range armor, then please be upfront with your intention and tell us.
-If you make a blowpipe change, you should consider wiping the personal best timers for any boss that requires blowpipe. That's how significant of an impact you're making.

BTW, is an un-announced twitter poll anywhere close to representative of the osrs player base? doubt it

22-Jan-2021 18:11:39

Xth Infinity

Xth Infinity

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1st i wanna say level changes seem fine thats reasonable...

but out all that most EoC seeming thing
are item nerfs

now range armor ok...
but making dinh's bulwark a range def shield only with all its existing drawbacks in pvp this is questionable i mean your already nerfing one most used armors with it
and clans already pretty much run and own wildy making impossible for solo players alot time

then we have the blowpipe... idk were to start... why not just raise the level req (or nerf stats of everything) its special almost never hits unless your facing already low def even then it rarely hits but the most tilting comment on the blowpipe is... the fight caves melee will have better dps fight caves meta has always been pray/range.... unless your a maxed main even then most time its still pray/range

then rune changes/warhammers sure for f2p it seems fine but some changes allow as said stuff like rune warhammers to out preform higher lv members gear due to being able to use say rune warhammers with defenders...

with that i will end this with seems like another not really well thought out EoC
tltr: level req changes seem fine powercreep happens you dont expect a lv3 to be on same playing field as a lv126? if you do then thats probably the bigger power creep issue here....

22-Jan-2021 18:20:05

Grobar20

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----There is confusion over why the Toxic Blowpipe is such a focus for the nerfs, yet items such as the Twisted Bow and Scythe of Vitur have hardly been changed.------



what??????? are you guys for real??
Twisted bow got cuple nerfs in all years and strong ones. On start it was much much stronger and it worked on cuple more bosses...
During years it got less stronger in cox (still bis) but on the start it hitted much much harder..100+ hits! Same it worked stronger on cuple bosses thx to no mage defence cap...So who are you kidding??? It got nerfed alot during years. We are not blind and we not losing the memory. Bow as it is now is good..it is not bis anymore on many bosses but only on certain, wich is ok. It shuld stay as it is and no prayer nerf.

Please do not kill the bow or cox will be a dead content..it is already more or less only bow hunting in cox. The rest items are already under 100m and many are junk (in making the profit).

22-Jan-2021 18:37:10

Snuggle Duck

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OKAY ITS CLEAR NOW, THERE IS STILL SOME REPTILLIAN MOD WHO WANTS TO DESTROY RUNESCAPE.

First of all, why all of a sudden do you want to start nerfing items that have been around. Not to mention black d'hide already had one nerf. I may as well wear snake skin while pking at this point. Another thing, why are you drastically affecting the runescape economy by nerfing these items? It would seem maybe mod jed maybe making a come back.... and EOC is next. Jagex you clearly have a community divided now.

YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DIVIDE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

22-Jan-2021 19:06:57

Tuame

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My account is over 10 years old. I never post on the forums but I feel forced to comment since you are not polling this.

You've gained the support of the game players BECAUSE of the polling system. Not polling these changes is so blatantly obviously detrimental to your player base its like being stabbed in the back.

People stopped playing rs3 because things happen to the game outside of their control and eventually left them with a game they don't like, it lost its few things core pieces going for the game which kept them playing and lost the heart of the game. Acknowledging that the players would not accept these changes in the polls is all that you needed to say to realise that they will upset the players and remove some of the small number of things which are the key playing experience.

I pretty much play the game for the blow pipe, it's what i like to do and why i pay membership, if you nerf it like that then you are halving my gameplay experience. And i can't find it hard to imagine that the blowpipe players are a massive majority. very disappointed and genuinely would stop playing if this happens

22-Jan-2021 19:21:51

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