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Ahzoh
Mar Member 2024

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Paladin said :
The staff Nomad wields is definitely a piece to be considered. To give it a purpose, I propose:

Ethereal Staff

Stab - 10
Slash - -1
Crush - 40
Magic Accuracy - 10
Range Accuracy - 0

Stab Defence - 2
Slash Defence - 3
Crush Defence - 1
Magic Defence - 10
Range Defence - 0

Strength - 50
Magic Strength - 10%
Range Strength - 0
Prayer Bonus - 4

The Ethereal Staff would be capable of autocasting ancient magic. The staff would not be the best for dps, although it would still provide niche uses.

The cost for the staff would be a good price at 1750 Zeal.

Edit: You call it the Ethereal Staff not because it's in ethereal form, rather it's from the ethereal realm. The shape it takes in this realm does not reflect it's true appearance, and is altered in the transferring from the ethereal realm. Nomad is the kind of character to travel to such a realm.

His staff is actually a kind of spear, and it behaves this way when you actually fight the boss in the old game.

09-Jan-2021 23:14:46

Paladin
Jan Member 2023

Paladin

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Ahzoh said :
Paladin said :
The staff Nomad wields is definitely a piece to be considered. To give it a purpose, I propose:

Ethereal Staff

Stab - 10
Slash - -1
Crush - 40
Magic Accuracy - 10
Range Accuracy - 0

Stab Defence - 2
Slash Defence - 3
Crush Defence - 1
Magic Defence - 10
Range Defence - 0

Strength - 50
Magic Strength - 10%
Range Strength - 0
Prayer Bonus - 4

The Ethereal Staff would be capable of autocasting ancient magic. The staff would not be the best for dps, although it would still provide niche uses.

The cost for the staff would be a good price at 1750 Zeal.

Edit: You call it the Ethereal Staff not because it's in ethereal form, rather it's from the ethereal realm. The shape it takes in this realm does not reflect it's true appearance, and is altered in the transferring from the ethereal realm. Nomad is the kind of character to travel to such a realm.

His staff is actually a kind of spear, and it behaves this way when you actually fight the boss in the old game.


Thank you for making me aware of this Ahzoe. Perhaps since this is the case, the melee bonuses could be increased to be closer to a weapon like the Zamorakian Spear, and renamed as an Ethereal Spearstaff.

Revision of my original thought:

Ethereal Spearstaff - 2 handed spear with ability to autocast spells, including ancient magic.

Stab - 88
Slash - 68
Crush - 68
Magic Accuracy - 15
Range Accuracy - 0

Stab Defence - 11
Slash Defence - 9
Crush Defence -11
Magic Defence - 15
Range Defence - 11

Strength - 73
Magic Strength - 10%
Range Strength - 0
Prayer Bonus - 8

Attack speed - 4

Not too sure on if it would be possible to give a weapon categorized as a spear the ability to autocast, but it's fitting stats for Nomad's weapon.

Thank you again Ahzoh.

10-Jan-2021 02:56:56 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2021 03:19:14 by Paladin

Grobar20

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The SC is a huge trash right now.

Problems:

1. Waiting in a lobby is way to long..Current 4 min, 4 min! if 10 ppl on each side...Shuld be max 1 min.

2. Remove the 60 lobby max limit so we dont spam the doors with 10000x clicks ...let all in and let the game random decide wich ppl will go in a battle with a balance of number from both sides..the rest wuld wait for the next game with priorty. That 60 remove limit wuld help so we dont need spam the doors, bad for mouse and fingers and ppl are frustrated.

3. The team wich lose gets really to low points, no matter how much active you are you get so low points that it is not worth to be in a loosing team, 0000 motivation and really a big unfair thing...If you are active and doing alot you shuld also gain alot points no matter if you lose...current loosing situation is to harsh.

4. Soul cape....2500 points for no usefull cape is alot.
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10-Jan-2021 10:09:56 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2021 10:14:29 by Grobar20

Mosychuk
Sep Member 2020

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You guys need to increase the team cap. The issues with team stacking are, in part, just a numbers game. The effect of one team having all the power can be normalized by larger team sizes, because with a large enough sample observed effects tend to center around the mean. The original iteration of sw confirms this.

If you homogenize the teams by one lobby, perhaps you can increase the chance a player will land on the same team as a friend but a lv126 w/ lv126 friends is different than a lv80 with lv80 friends, for example. I think is disingenuous to just have worlds w/ the rule toggled on and worlds w/ it toggled off. One world will probably be dead and the other one full to the brim.

10-Jan-2021 20:20:40

Ahzoh
Mar Member 2024

Ahzoh

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Paladin said :

Ethereal Spearstaff - 2 handed spear with ability to autocast spells, including ancient magic.

Stab - 88
Slash - 68
Crush - 68
Magic Accuracy - 15
Range Accuracy - 0

Stab Defence - 11
Slash Defence - 9
Crush Defence -11
Magic Defence - 15
Range Defence - 11

Strength - 73
Magic Strength - 10%
Range Strength - 0
Prayer Bonus - 8

Attack speed - 4

This weapon is too overpowered and would outclass staves like staff of light/the dead in the niche they exist in. Unless it's supposed to be an upgrade of them (a sol that can autocast ancient magicks would be great), which would be a more fitting idea than what you suggest and doesn't involve the creation of a new weapon class (spearstaff).

11-Jan-2021 04:28:14 - Last edited on 11-Jan-2021 04:33:46 by Ahzoh

Ahzoh
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Grobar20 said :
4. Soul cape....2500 points for no usefull cape is alot.

*laughs in best-in-slot prayer bonus*
You may say that 2500 zeal is simply too much for only +8 prayer bonus and nothing else, but consider how difficult it already is to get the Ardy Cape 4 which requires Ardougne Elite to be completed and gives +6 prayer bonus. If anything, it would take way less play hours to get the best-in-slot prayer cape than it would be to get the second best-in-slot prayer cape.

11-Jan-2021 04:29:05 - Last edited on 11-Jan-2021 04:35:08 by Ahzoh

Skywalker
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Clans are ruining this minigame. The random lobby idea is the way to go in my opinion.

If people are really desperate to play with their friends maybe make a way to where people can queue up with 1 or 2 friends. Most competitive games that have grouping though has some system so that the lobby tries to balance groups so that each team has the same amount of grouping players. I'm not sure if that's a good idea but it's worth considering as a compromise. Also I'm not sure if I'm a fan of the super potions. I'm sure there's a reason behind them but I don't see it.

Also something I don't like is how hard it is to get max zeal without using ancient barrages/bursts. I've legitimately tried very hard many different strategies and unless I'm allowed to camp the avatar it's very difficult for me to get max zeal.

I really love Soul Wars and it's what brought me back to playing more regularly and getting my stats up. Now that it's out it's very frustrating with the clans.
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11-Jan-2021 04:49:36

Paladin
Jan Member 2023

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Ahzoh said :
Paladin said :

Ethereal Spearstaff - 2 handed spear with ability to autocast spells, including ancient magic.

Stab - 88
Slash - 68
Crush - 68
Magic Accuracy - 15
Range Accuracy - 0

Stab Defence - 11
Slash Defence - 9
Crush Defence -11
Magic Defence - 15
Range Defence - 11

Strength - 73
Magic Strength - 10%
Range Strength - 0
Prayer Bonus - 8

Attack speed - 4

This weapon is too overpowered and would outclass staves like staff of light/the dead in the niche they exist in. Unless it's supposed to be an upgrade of them (a sol that can autocast ancient magicks would be great), which would be a more fitting idea than what you suggest and doesn't involve the creation of a new weapon class (spearstaff).


Staff of the dead is 1-handed and has 5% more magic damage on it. I dont know how you think it outclassed staff of the dead? Is that solely because it can autocast ancients? It's more so underpowered in comparison to Zamorakian Spear and the SoL, but you gain 8 prayer bonus and the ability to autocast ancients. You could wear a mage's book or a dragon defender with a Sol, or even a prayer book. Tome of fire also.

Maybe increase the Zeal cost? It's really an item I'd imagine Ironman who don't have the ability to do chambers of xerics for kodai insignia, or nightmare yet would find useful. Otherwise if you were going to use ancients, why wouldn't you buy the wand or nightmare staff and use a shield?

I'm just thinking of possibilities that fit for Soul Wars rewards, and in general this weapon would not be top-notch. It's more for players that are med level in progression of their stats and gear. You'd have to spend a lot of time playing a minigame for a weapon that is outclassed in every circumstance. Why would anybody spend hours playing a minigame for a weapon which, if you remove the magic %, is barely different than an ancient staff and prayer book and d scim and d defender?

11-Jan-2021 05:05:06 - Last edited on 11-Jan-2021 06:02:02 by Paladin

Disloyal
Nov Member 2018

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Please bring back the Goliath's gloves, Spellcaster gloves, and Swift gloves as Soul Wars rewards, even if they have to be limited to use in the minigame itself.

Also, you should reintroduce the Nomad's Requiem quest for properly earning the Soul Wars cape (refund players their Zeal points as necessary).

11-Jan-2021 14:12:34

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