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Mar

2023

Ownedby str3

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Ownedby str3 said :
As for the black lives matter subject, I must say I'm very disappointed in Jagex but not surprised. Just like every woke company nowadays Jagex has decided to shove their political ideology down our throats and is bowing to an extremist idealogy. I read someone's post earlier that said they play Runescape to escape the political crap of the real world and I totally feel him. It's a slippery slope you guys are playing and its banning words now but what will it be 6 months from now. No one likes government stepping in and telling you what to do or say and I feel like Jagex is doing the same thing in Runescape. It's bullshit. Of course, there will be a group of players who won't care and in fact, agree with what you're doing.

But I can assure you there is also a group of players who will get pissed and tired and fed up and as one of those players if you guys keep pushing the issue onto us then I will force myself to not play this game. The BLM movement is a sham, only coming around election time. When was the last time you heard of BLM?

Oh,that's right it was 2016 the election of Trump. The movement itself has been hijacked by leftist extremists who weren't peacefully protesting in the name of George Floyd. They were burning buildings down, breaking into homes, looting, tearing down statues and defunding the police. The fact that Jagex is cowering to these bafoons is honestly pathetic. Bringing politics into the game is a bad move. I pray you won't take it too far with your so-called censorship.I rarely see racist rhetoric in the game in the first place.

ps. for anyone that calls me a racist you can save that nonsense. I don't see how blindly yelling racist is constructive. These are Soros funded riots to sow chaos and change social norms. Despite what they tell you society as a whole is not racist. They want race wars to further divide us and drum up black support for the upcoming election.

27-Jun-2020 11:16:21

Mar

2023

Ownedby str3

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(cont) most of the people rioting in the name of black lives matter and Antifa are in fact, white people. Either to make white people think it was the black people and the black people to see it was white people hijacking/making them look bad and to drum up support for the election. It's a scam. The Democrats have used the black population since the 60s counting it as a free vote all the while they do absolutely nothing for them and actually have made it worse with their policies. The statues they are tearing down are mostly of Democrats! It was the republican party, the party of lincoln that worked to free the slaves. They are trying to erase their own racist pasts and rewrite history.

But this time it's different. Black people are waking up and despite all of this you have the highest percentage ever never voting democrat again because they do absolutely nothing for them. Obama did nothing for the black community. They see it. regardless of race, one thing is for certain and that is the liberal/leftist/globalist ideology is a cancer no matter what country you are in. The problems in each of our respected countries are caused by the government. more false flags are committed every year then you could imagine furthering their ideology onto us. they will not stop until your rights are forever taken away and they can form their precious one-world government.

Anyway, getting carried away, but Jagex you are going down a slippery slope and you need to keep politics out of the game. Most of us are not 13 anymore and we certainly don't need you telling us what we can say/cant say. if someone says a slur and offends someone they can use the report button. but as a whole, the community doesn't even say racist stuff to one another. i believe talking trash is the backbone of all video games and you will never rid that from people. if someone goes to far mute them idc but stay out of the game chat... we like it the way it is.

27-Jun-2020 11:30:25 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2020 11:55:42 by Ownedby str3

Angel2D4

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SlN3d said :
Angel2D4 said :

That^ is profoundly offensive.

The "natives that feel they got abused" "and stuff", WERE ABUSED, "and stuff" (my own ancestors were forced to walk the Trail of Tears, don't tell me they FEEL that they got abused). And it isn't "hate" that most of them carry generation over generation. It's PAIN.

Don't try to claim that it's the BLM movement that "shows" no country is ready for the mixing of populations. That's ludicrous and very biased.

Mankind has repeatedly demonstrated it's desire to eradicate those it views as "the weakest link". This isn't a race issue. If anything it's a class issue and people are simply too wrapped up in their own little bubbles to see it.

Now you are attacking on what I am saying, picking up sentences from my text and saying "thats forbidden, also that is forbidden..." and so on. Just a typical example of what "liberals" are tryng to do to silent people over the Internet and also in real world.
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I pointed out that people didn't simply "feel" they were abused... they actually WERE abused.. and that everyone should be taking responsibility for what they do and say, individually.. and you... go off on a tangent.

I wasn't "attacking on" ANYTHING. I pointed out that what you said was offensive. Because it was. If that upsets you in some way, perhaps you should spend a moment or 2 reflecting on HOW and WHY it was offensive, hmm?

Step out of your own little bubble and take a moment to realize that there are people in the world hurting from being abused (not from feeling like they've been abused, but from actually BEING ABUSED).

The BLM movement hasn't done anything wrong.. individuals have worked hard to drown out the message behind it, with destruction and chaos and those individuals should be held accountable.. but they don't invalidate the wrongs being protested against. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Jun-2020 19:01:57

Angel2D4

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And it isn't the group itself that's trying to destroy the message.. the VERY VALID MESSAGE that the abuse should stop.

Don't try to claim there's no message behind all the BS going on in the world.. because it's there for anybody to see it who can actually open their eyes and have an open mind.

How would YOU like to be OWNED.. irl, not in the game? And how would YOU like to endure constant ridicule and fear with every breath you take?

Walk a mile in somebody else's shoes before you go off on your tangent about how you've done nothing wrong in the things you said. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Jun-2020 19:05:41

Angel2D4

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To prevent what I said being taken out of context the post above that says:

"but they don't invalidate the wrongs being protested against."

Should actually say "they don't invalidate the protests against the wrongs".

I don't believe those causing chaos care what the message is... that the abuse has got to stop..

No, those causing the chaos care only about creating chaos.

As individual human beings they, like anyone else in the world, should be held accountable for the things they say and do.

It's called personal responsibility.. and anybody with the balls to do something wrong should also have the balls to admit it and take responsibility for it.

IMO. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Jun-2020 19:13:13

Jul

2023

Fhrost

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"So to start with, we're going to be hard-filtering a number of hateful words and phrases. This means that some words will be censored regardless of whether the profanity filter is toggled off. The banned words and phrases have no place within Gielinor, and there is not a time or a place when they would need to be said."

Who will determine what is and isn't hateful/offensive? Those are subjective feelings. To me, the statement "black lives matter" is hateful and offensive, and I feel like a marginalized player because you made a positive statement about something I find to be hateful. Are you going to accommodate that? Or is that only for marginalized players YOU agree with? A fag is a cigarette in the UK, but a slur for homosexual in the US. How will you account for these differences? Just one example. I think this highlights one of the core problems of censorship. "Ultimately, all that we ask is that we all respect one another in-game. Gielinor is for all of us."
For all of us unless we don't agree with what YOU find respectful?

I love this game, and have played since classic when I was a youngin. I learned a lot about the world, economics, and people from it, and will be forever grateful for that. I have quit a few times and always come back, but I think this will be it. It is your game, and you hold the right to choose to censor or not, but I will not support a company that promotes censorship. Freely expressing yourself is one of the most beautiful things we can have as a people.

28-Jun-2020 03:12:00 - Last edited on 28-Jun-2020 03:48:24 by Fhrost

Angel2D4

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Fhrost said :
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Freely expressing yourself is one of the most beautiful things we can have as a people.

'Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder' has never been more true than your statement there.

There is nothing "beautiful" about someone being called a "retard" simply because they have a real life disability.

That's someone "freely expressing" themselves, right? It's "beautiful" to YOU?

And coming from someone who has provided care to a child for more than 20 years, who happens to have real life disabilities, I find it crushingly insulting, morally reprehensible, and wrong on more levels than you could ever hope to understand.. but YOU find it "beautiful" because someone was able to "freely express" themselves.

Get out of that narrow little bubble. There are others in the world who don't find it so "beautiful" that y'all have been able to "freely express" insults that serve no purpose other than to hurt another human being.

There ARE words and phrases that have no place in a game. Jagex is stepping up and doing the right thing in this hard filtering of words and phrases that have no place here and if that causes some to leave the game for good... it's a cost worth paying.

Jagex saying "Gielinor is for all of us." and then ensuring that it IS "for all of us" is a most welcome step.

Your comparrison on cigarettes.. asking how they will handle that... it's quite simple really.. tobacco doesn't grow on Gielinor (afaik) and it never has.

This is the first time I can remember jagex ever trying to welcome everyone to the game.. and you want to leave because of it?

See ya, wouldn't wanna be ya! (see how "beautiful" it is to freely express yourself?) "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

28-Jun-2020 20:42:42

Jul

2023

Fhrost

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Yes, it is beautiful. It allows me to express my beliefs and you to do the same. It allows bad ideas to be fought and good ideas to be spread. Again, how "offensive" something is is subjective. I have a mental disability, and I laugh when someone calls me retard. If you get angry and want silence when you hear something you don't like, you are mentally weak. If you want to hide yourself away from all ideas, then stay in your house for the rest of your life and turn your chat off. Problem solved. And if you think a hard filter will change any toxicity in chat, you didn't play when they used to have the hard filter. It doesn't stop anything, because there will always be a way around.

The first time they are welcoming everyone to the game? I don't remember there being rules about which color or nationality people could make accounts, must've missed that.

So it only applies if its in rs?
"brb I'm going out for a fag"

28-Jun-2020 23:48:01 - Last edited on 28-Jun-2020 23:53:01 by Fhrost

Angel2D4

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Fhrost said :
Yes, it is beautiful. It allows me to express my beliefs and you to do the same. It allows bad ideas to be fought and good ideas to be spread. Again, how "offensive" something is is subjective. I have a mental disability, and I laugh when someone calls me retard. If you get angry and want silence when you hear something you don't like, you are mentally weak. If you want to hide yourself away from all ideas, then stay in your house for the rest of your life and turn your chat off. Problem solved. And if you think a hard filter will change any toxicity in chat, you didn't play when they used to have the hard filter. It doesn't stop anything, because there will always be a way around.

The first time they are welcoming everyone to the game? I don't remember there being rules about which color or nationality people could make accounts, must've missed that.

So it only applies if its in rs?
"brb I'm going out for a fag"

You and I have just offered evidence that it doesn't take "offensive" or "hateful" words to "offend" others. You've become offended that I take offense to someone saying a child is retarded. You might not find being called retarded offensive. Others do.

Worse yet, you've become (clearly) offended that I pointed out that tobacco doesn't grow in Gielinor. So offended that not only do you not make the statement that you're intending to go out to smoke, but you've put quotations around it, in hopes that it would offend someone else.

Newsflash kiddo, if you were aiming for it to offend me, you should aim better.

And worst of all... you've clearly become offended that jagex would put effort in to stop you, or anyone else, from hurling insults at others, just because YOU don't find it offensive.

Games for everyone most assuredly should take into account how everyone feels and not just one person who wants to hurl insults in a game. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

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