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Finch394

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Shojo Dagger said :

3: As someone else stated, I play RuneScape as an escapist activity, a way to get away from real world tension for a while. I don't like that real world tension tainting my game now, too.

4: I don't personally support the BLM organization because, whatever its founders' intent may have been, it has now become a violent hate/racial supremacy group, & I am against all racist supremacy hate groups, no matter which race they claim is supreme or which race they hate. I'm against racism in all it's forms.

I support racial equality, but I do mean actual equality, not the "preferential treatment & legal impunity based on race" that some people want to call "equality". If a white man & black man commit the same crime, they should receive the same sentence, neither should receive better or worse treatment over the other. If a person dies senselessly because of a police officer's inappropriate use of force, that's shameful & the officer should be legally accountable, no matter what the race of the person or the officer.

5: I checked out the website of the UK charity you donated to, & they seem like a nice organization dedicated to peaceful, positive community building, not hateful, racist destruction. So unless they're secretly holdin

Well put! I'm from the US and live in a city that had riots/looting/protests and there definitely is a lot of hatred from the BLM organisation. There have been people who were killed when "protesters" attacked their cars and then they are criticized if they drive to get away and nudge one of them. There's countless delivery drivers who were beaten and dragged out of their vehicles for no other reason then they were just delivering. An officer had to roll some people off of their car because they were threatening to do the same to them. When I told this to BLM supporters the answer was "well that's what they signed up for" and that they should've stayed put an died to the mob..

26-Jun-2020 21:19:57

Finch394

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Double post. My bad

26-Jun-2020 21:20:00 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2020 21:26:17 by Finch394

Finch394

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Part 2

There is valid concern that comes from the pockets of the movement but the problem is that people are hijacking the label to do as they please with impunity. I'ma white guy and when the protests were bad in my city I was followed by black people in a car and told "White Lives don't matter. This is black lives matter." Pretty sure white people used to do that to black people back in the day and we condemn it and rightfully so. The problem is that again BLM supporters look past these types of incidents as I'm sorry this happened but it's all about the context of the movement. What movement? A group that seeks to push racial hatred and division. If a group is willing to justify killing anyone with a police uniform because some of them have wronged minority communities is no better than saying that all black people are criminals because some of them commit crimes.

TL;DR BLM is hate movement and is cancerous to society

26-Jun-2020 21:25:43

SlN3d

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Angel2D4 said :

...However, "jokes" or "metaphors" at the expense of someone else (be that a group of people, or an individual) aren't 'funny' or 'laughable'.

Certainly there will be those that work hard to bypass that filter.. and I hope that jagex comes down heavy and hard on them.

You know, when Jagex tries to stitch all the gaps the filter is having in order to make it impossible to bypass, wouldn't it be easier for jagex to just forget the filter since there is the 'report abuse' button existing after all. Why to need censorship?
As I described earlier, as a Finnish guy, it is very difficult to talk in Finnish to another person on RS when the filter is on (I remember this from 2000's), and especially when the gaps that allow bypassing the filter are filled, almost every third word (using retoric language here) gets censored. It is really annoying and makes communicating complicated.

Ah headdress that was the word... I know its history and what kind of conflicts are related to wearing a headdress... We are not guilty on the actions our ancestors did. Yes I know what kind of cruelty people faced centuries ago but it is something we are not guilty to. Move on, people.
Even my great great grand dad 13 generations before me, started a nationwide rebellion here in Finland in the 16th century. A lot of people got killed and still, nobody's tearing down the statue of him.

Maybe this whole BLM thing just shows that no country is ready for mixing of population - there are always people or natives that feel they got abused and stuff, and they carry all the hatred over the next generations and the wounds will not heal. I thought the US was a perfect example of mix of population but the happenings on last weeks have destroyed the bright image.

I am ending this constructive conversation here but feel free to continue it. Of course I will reply on you if you still have something in your mind

SlN3d

26-Jun-2020 22:44:11 - Last edited on 26-Jun-2020 23:27:55 by SlN3d

Torplex

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Please remove the new death mechanic. It seems dumb, and there are plenty of other ways to remove gold from the game. For one, personally I wouldn't mind if whenever you have to collect gear from a npc because you died (boss instances), you'd have to pay 500k instead of the low amount of 100k. Or even better, you'd have to pay a % of the gears value, so the better gear you use, the less chance you have of dying, but also the higher cost you'll have to pay if you do.

Also, many people said it much better then I ever could, but I would still like to add in short:
The large majority of black people = good
BLM = Some good, most bad.

Edit: Jagex can donate to whatever they want, but I don't think anyone sees it then anything less then Jagex trying to virtue signal. You don't have to tell us what you donates to, you choose to do so, and there is always a reason if done so.

27-Jun-2020 00:38:36 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2020 00:52:33 by Torplex

Angel2D4

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SlN3d said :
Angel2D4 said :

...However, "jokes" or "metaphors" at the expense of someone else (be that a group of people, or an individual) aren't 'funny' or 'laughable'.

Certainly there will be those that work hard to bypass that filter.. and I hope that jagex comes down heavy and hard on them.

... wouldn't it be easier for jagex to just forget the filter since there is the 'report abuse' button existing after all...

Ah headdress that was the word... I know its history and what kind of conflicts are related to wearing a headdress...

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Maybe this whole BLM thing just shows that no country is ready for mixing of population - there are always people or natives that feel they got abused and stuff, and they carry all the hatred over the next generations and the wounds will not heal. I thought the US was a perfect example of mix of population but the happenings on last weeks have destroyed the bright image.
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Forget the filter? Easier, perhaps, but it comes down to doing what's right and that necessarily involves censoring the most offensive of offensive words being flung around to cause others pain. Mankind can be cruel and selfish.. that doesn't make it right. What kind of community would this be if everyone can simply speak/type as they please, irregardless of who or how many they hurt.. and who would actually WANT to be a part of such a community?

That's rhetorical. Nobody would.

Clearly there's more that you could learn about a Native American headdress. I'm going to leave it at that because one would have to want to learn the difference between a war bonnet and a headdress in order to learn it. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Jun-2020 00:44:55

Angel2D4

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SlN3d said :
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Maybe this whole BLM thing just shows that no country is ready for mixing of population - there are always people or natives that feel they got abused and stuff, and they carry all the hatred over the next generations and the wounds will not heal. I thought the US was a perfect example of mix of population but the happenings on last weeks have destroyed the bright image.
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That^ is profoundly offensive.

The "natives that feel they got abused" "and stuff", WERE ABUSED, "and stuff" (my own ancestors were forced to walk the Trail of Tears, don't tell me they FEEL that they got abused). And it isn't "hate" that most of them carry generation over generation. It's PAIN.

Don't try to claim that it's the BLM movement that "shows" no country is ready for the mixing of populations. That's ludicrous and very biased.

Mankind has repeatedly demonstrated it's desire to eradicate those it views as "the weakest link". This isn't a race issue. If anything it's a class issue and people are simply too wrapped up in their own little bubbles to see it.

There is NO reason why we can't ALL live in peace with everybody being treated as the human beings that they are. We are NOT better than ANYONE else on the face of this planet and no one group is responsible for the chaos as much as it is every single and selfish individual that's going through this world ignoring the issue at hand.

You can't heal hurt that is never acknowledged by bringing it to the light of day and you can't change the past but you can acknowledge it and be sorry for what others might have had to go through... by simply being KIND to one another.

But we, as the flawed human beings that we are, refuse to do that!

So jagex steps up and puts in a hard filter so that nobody can verbally abuse someone trying to play the game to escape the abuse they live every day.

Good on jagex. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

27-Jun-2020 01:00:45

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2017

Skilor

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Why do irons only have to pay half the price? its harder for them to get cash, i agree with that.
But you can sacrifice items to the death's office for GE value? This means its just as easy as mains to get money in the coffer for irons. Ironmanmode is supposed to have restrictions, make the game harder, and this is just benefiting them over mains, i dont get it.

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27-Jun-2020 09:41:35

SlN3d

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Angel2D4 said :

That^ is profoundly offensive.

Don't try to claim that it's the BLM movement that "shows" no country is ready for the mixing of populations. That's ludicrous and very biased.

Now you are attacking on what I am saying, picking up sentences from my text and saying "thats forbidden, also that is forbidden..." and so on. Just a typical example of what "liberals" are tryng to do to silent people over the Internet and also in real world.
My sentences were not pointed as insult - yet you are trying to push my head down below the surface about what I am saying, and making me silent about some issues you find sensitive.
It is not on my duty to supervise who gets insulted and of what I am saying. You say yourselves as "the tolerant" while you do not tolerate my opinions, especially opinions where I do not think I have broken any laws or used any inaudible words.

"The tolerant" are trying to make the World a better place, by silencing opposing opinions, acting as a World police, putting words to others' mouths. If I say "I do not support Pride", I would immediately be attacked by bunch of "tolerant" people calling me an idiot or retarded with no reason, because I oppose something they like. I do not have anything against gay people and I have several good friends also being gays, I just hate the happening itself, which has turned also quite political these days...

All I wonder is, where has the mutual respect gone these days? Maybe it has vanished after social media came?

Maybe it is impossible mission to get the two sides thinking the same way, just because of reason my way of thinking is based on sense, and your way of thinking is based on emotions. For example, I am against refugee policies due to its costs to our society which is in deep debths; you defend refugee policies due to willingness of helping people no matter what it costs because human life has no price. SlN3d

27-Jun-2020 09:53:00

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2023

Ownedby str3

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As for the black lives matter subject, I must say I'm very disappointed in Jagex but not surprised. Just like every woke company nowadays Jagex has decided to shove their political ideology down our throats and is bowing to an extremist idealogy. I read someone's post earlier that said they play Runescape to escape the political crap of the real world and I totally feel him. It's a slippery slope you guys are playing and its banning words now but what will it be 6 months from now. No one likes government stepping in and telling you what to do or say and I feel like Jagex is doing the same thing in Runescape. It's bullshit. Of course, there will be a group of players who won't care and in fact, agree with what you're doing.

But I can assure you there is also a group of players who will get pissed and tired and fed up and as one of those players if you guys keep pushing the issue onto us then I will force myself to not play this game. The BLM movement is a sham, only coming around election time. When was the last time you heard of BLM?

Oh,that's right it was 2016 the election of Trump. The movement itself has been hijacked by leftist extremists who weren't peacefully protesting in the name of George Floyd. They were burning buildings down, breaking into homes, looting, tearing down statues and defunding the police. The fact that Jagex is cowering to these bafoons is honestly pathetic. Bringing politics into the game is a bad move. I pray you won't take it too far with your so-called censorship.I rarely see racist rhetoric in the game in the first place.

ps. for anyone that calls me a racist you can save that nonsense. I don't see how blindly yelling racist is constructive. These are Soros funded riots to sow chaos and change social norms. Despite what they tell you society as a whole is not racist. They want race wars to further divide us and drum up black support for the upcoming election.

27-Jun-2020 10:52:18 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2020 11:16:06 by Ownedby str3

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