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This thread is for discussing the latest announcement that you can find here .
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15-Jul-2019 10:28:03 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 10:29:46 by Mod Acorn

SeanDLuffy

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An absolute yes from me. It genuinely feels like an old school skill; you listened to the community well (for at least those people who read the document) and made the correct changes a majority of rational users asked for; it ostensibly fills the much needed gap for the creation of magic armour (we can make melee and range armour already) and makes magic a worthwhile playable dimension of the game.

In fact these changes are so necessary and the ideas are so good I would sooner this be a necessary integrity implement. Firstly I apologize for the online abuse by the Twitter community. I find most of them are naturally conservative and care not for change. You can often tell their arguments for sheer simplicity and shortsightedness; no for the sake of:

"No keep it old school with no change." - At that rate we will never get a new skill or potentially great content. It's alienating for people who want good change and dangerous in the long-run for making the game stale.
"No I'm already maxed." - This is just lazy and arrogance. If you have time to max, you have time for a new skill too.

They would have argued no to skills like construction; hunting; slayer etc if it were polled today. I do warn though that listening to constant no-sayers will make the game incredibly stale real fast. It's frightening and dangerous to see that their outright rejection to even read the changes or document will be the outcome of the poll. Much anticipated and exciting new content all thrown away for nothing.

Keep at it! It's a yes from me and you have my absolute confidence, as I'm sure you have most of it from a silent majority. I wholeheartedly hope this passes and I look forward to playing with the new content you have creatively given to us which fits perfectly in an old school environment. Even if the poll fails to pass, please, please, please keep it and work on it. Warding is very much necessary for a gap that needs to be filled.

Thank you Jagex!

15-Jul-2019 14:33:23 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 14:59:02 by SeanDLuffy

SeanDLuffy

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On another note: I see too many e-celebrity Twitter users threatening to bond all their accounts just to make a no vote. There are a lot of calls for spite voting. Can we please do something about the fairness of the voting system? They are outright vocal about their spite and rigging the system. Given the influx of new users and concern for people wanting to rig the system I even support lowering the supermajority vote to 65% for future polls.

15-Jul-2019 15:07:03 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 16:16:40 by SeanDLuffy

SK Pukka

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Why can't you come up with some original ideas rather than recycling content?
E.g. ring imbues

The new skilling rings sound good, and imbues can be relevant for those - but to recycle old content into a new area is just a pure excuse for not coming up with something new.
I'm sure there are enough people in the development team and sat in your office to come up with some new, fresh content.

Wildy capes update where the 'bosses' were re-coloured greater demons springs to mind...

15-Jul-2019 15:48:55

Armed Saint

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I was 100% against Warding when you first posted about it (the dev blog) , i thought it was an unnecessary complicated skill that didn't had enough of it's own content to deserve to be a skill on it's own when it could just be integrated into the existing skills (craft, rc, smith)

To be honest i still feel that we already have skills suitable for creating magic armour, especially since we already can create Xerician Robes and Splitbark armour, but at the same time i do admit that i like the idea of being able to create more magic armor and i also like the idea of incorporating imbuements into the skill so it's not just locked behind a minigame.

So personally i have gone from an absolute No to a perhaps , i will read up on all the information that has been posted today and watch the video before making a decision, but it does sadly feel pointless to put this to vote since i am certain it will not reach 75%.

I feel bad for the developers who put so much work into something that most likely will never pass. "We are never deceived; we deceive ourselves." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man." - Friedrich Nietzsche

15-Jul-2019 16:30:17 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 16:30:51 by Armed Saint

Packyff
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It just seems like a hodge podge of invention, divination, and summoning for the skilling component. In 3 months, all they really changed was the removal of some aspects that might be controversial to integrity. They seemed to ignore the fact that nobody was enthusiastic about the training of the skill.

Dissolving alone is enough to get me to vote no. No invention in OSRS. I believe a new skill could pass a poll. The problem is that all of your ideas are terrible.

15-Jul-2019 19:54:50

Stinkowing
Jun Member 2006

Stinkowing

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Packyff said :
Dissolving alone is enough to get me to vote no. No invention in OSRS. I believe a new skill could pass a poll. The problem is that all of your ideas are terrible.

It's not invention...you don't get materials like parts and components. You are getting, say, metal bars back for dissolving a platebody, or a bowstring for dissolving a bow.

I will be voting yes. I really want Jagex to force a new skill through, and stop letting the Twitter/reddit hivemind influcnce things. Players do not always know what it best for any game, RuneScape or not.

Also @ Jmods, can we just ban anyone who buys a bond just to vote "NO" on an alt? They clearly do not see your vision, and should not/do not count as a voice of the community if they're willing to do scummy things like that. Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

15-Jul-2019 20:47:34 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 21:00:50 by Stinkowing

Stinkowing
Jun Member 2006

Stinkowing

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Blastoisian said :
Goodbye OSRS after this.. :(

Won't be missed, bye!

Attitudes that say this is the end of OSRS can fuck right off. This is good for the game's health - if I were to max right now on OSRS *I* would probably quit from the lack of things to do. And that's not good player retention.

All ya'll who say this will kill the game...think before you speak please.

EDIT: I realize I worded this response very strongly, but it's true - most OSRS players only care about not having to max more than once and the nostalgia of the game. Let's be honest here - nostalgia is a drug in this scenario, and it is a bad one. Nothing stays the same for years and years - change must happen, and this is a change that has been thoughtfully planned so that we can influence it. They're even giving us a BETA for fuck's sake! If that's not going to persuade you that the team does care about us (even after the partnerships fiasco), then I have nothing more to say to you.

And like someone said here earlier - if you maxed once, you have the time and ability to max again. Oh, I almost forgot.
Oh, I already forgot.

15-Jul-2019 21:10:02 - Last edited on 15-Jul-2019 21:49:36 by Stinkowing

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