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NEED HELP URGENT! I wasnt sure which thread to post under, i was doing Dragon slayer today when i was in melzar's maze and instead of clicking the key i clicked my cash pile which was 6m! clicked on the door and it dissapeared??! is it some sort of glitch or something? is my money gone? I worked very hard from the start of runescape 2007 to earn that! please do something.

21-Jun-2013 21:06:04

Eggshell

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I'm in favor of updates. I think we need updates to keep this game alive, and to make it into the time we knew and loved the most(for me anyways). If you had a choice would you choose 2007, or would you choose 2009-2010? i would choose 2009-2010. They only gave us one choice though... Anyways, I'm in favor of updates.

22-Jun-2013 02:28:14

Angel2D4

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''If you had a choice would you choose 2007, or would you choose 2009-2010?''

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I would choose 2007 if those were the choices. They weren't.

We were offered OLD SCHOOL (and IMO 2009-2010 are NOT OS). Ofc that's me defining 'old school' by what it means IMO.

Those of y'all that simply want everything but the ability bar were already told no but the fact remains that the removal of the ability bar wouldn't make the main game 'old school'.

Y'all want to update OS to a point where there's nothin' old school about it.

Jagex.. you have an opportunity to retain players... has the past 6 years taught you nothing?

2 worlds (it's what you gave pkers), just 2.. where NOTHING ever changes.

Make it so peeps have to sign up in a forum thread (created by a jmod).

Make us start all over AGAIN.

Lock those 2 worlds down. No account from those 2 worlds could play on other servers and no account created on other servers could play on the locked ones.

You've basically done that with classic from the beginning of RS2.

Offer the old timers, OLD SCHOOL. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Jun-2013 03:24:49

Npinkpanther

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I would like to see this game develop as a living entity rather than remain static and unchanging. I really don't agree with the Luddite tendency in the old school community who think the game should never be updated or changed from how it was in August 07, who think the game would somehow be "ruined" if changes were made according to what the community wants.

I see the advent of OSR as backtracking from a wrong turn the game made, and then continuing on the journey in the right direction from where we went wrong. No one back in 2004-07 was saying "all right, let's just halt everything right here. No more updates, please, we like it how it is". We all looked forwards to new content back then, and we had a positive feeling about the direction the game was heading.

If the Luddites were to get their way, and the game were to remain static and frozen as a time-capsule of August 2007, people would eventually lose interest, the community would wither away. OSR would become a dusty museum, like RuneScape Classic is, rather than a living game with a vibrant community. It would become something for players from the main game to goggle at: "Lol, look at the funny old graphics. Isn't this cute?"

The game does not have to develop in exactly the same way as the main game did. Updating OSR does not mean that the modern graphics and EOC will inevitably become part of OSR. The game can and should be developed in its own way, according to community consultation. Personally I would love to see new quests added, and unfinished quest series tied up (perhaps differently from the main game, with alternative endings???).

22-Jun-2013 08:36:21

Angel2D4

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'' We all looked forwards to new content back then, and we had a positive feeling about the direction the game was heading.''

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You don't speak for all of the community and saying 'we' is not accurate.

You may have looked forward to that December 10th update, but I'm pretty sure you were in a massive minority if you did.

I'm equally as sure that it didn't offer anyone a 'positive feeling about the direction the game was heading' when they removed wildy and free trade.

It took me til mid 2008 to see that this game was on a downhill train that I didn't want to be on.

Fact of the matter is that not all updates are good updates because if they were, we wouldn't be here now (now would we?).

They say 'hindsight's 20-20' and in using that which we could all have learned something from, I think everyone can say that there is at least ONE update that they personally didn't want for RS (I think there's actually more, but nearly everyone has at least one).

So, why not give the easyscapers what they want AND the 'luddites' what they want in the same way pkers were offered what they wanted?

Frozen in time might not interest everyone.. but neither does the fast track to hell. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity" -Martin Luther King Jr.

22-Jun-2013 09:26:50

Librarian 42

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I would like to see this game develop as a living entity rather than remain static and unchanging. I really don't agree with the Luddite tendency in the old school community who think the game should never be updated or changed from how it was in August 07, who think the game would somehow be "ruined" if changes were made according to what the community wants.

I agree some changes might have been nice, but all people have asked for is updates taken from the main game. There have been hardly any new and unique updates (if any at all) All I've seen asked for is make this but of the game easier I don't want to waste my time doing this.

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I see the advent of OSR as backtracking from a wrong turn the game made, and then continuing on the journey in the right direction from where we went wrong. No one back in 2004-07 was saying "all right, let's just halt everything right here. No more updates, please, we like it how it is". We all looked forwards to new content back then, and we had a positive feeling about the direction the game was heading.

What would you say that wrong turn was, what happens if everyone has a different idea of where the main game went wrong. thinks Jagex should honour the results of the original Old School Poll

22-Jun-2013 10:12:27

Npinkpanther

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Replying to Tyria:

Please don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say... I didn't like the new modern graphics or the removal of PKing and free trade any more than you did. In fact if you read my post properly (about backtracking to where we took a wrong turn...) it was the opposite of what I said. You've basically built up a strawman that had no relevance to what I said and knocked it down.

It's not a choice between frozen in time and "fast track to hell". The game can (and should) develop on a different path to the main game, a path that has the endorsement of the old school community - that's my whole point. I agree that not all updates are good updates. But you seem to be suggesting that all updates are bad updates by dogmatically opposing any change at all.

Sure, if you want one or two worlds that don't get updated, like the RSC servers, while the rest of us "easyscapers" play a living, evolving old school game, then that's your choice. I'd support you in that endeavour if that's what you want, but I wouldn't play it myself.

By the way, it's not "easyscape" that I want. I want my game back - the game of 2004-2007 that I loved. Setting up the servers with the old graphics and content and everything is only half of that project - the other half is building the community to go with it and continuing to develop the game in the right direction.

22-Jun-2013 10:14:59 - Last edited on 22-Jun-2013 10:15:45 by Npinkpanther

Librarian 42

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If the Luddites were to get their way, and the game were to remain static and frozen as a time-capsule of August 2007, people would eventually lose interest, the community would wither away. OSR would become a dusty museum, like RuneScape Classic is, rather than a living game with a vibrant community. It would become something for players from the main game to goggle at: "Lol, look at the funny old graphics. Isn't this cute?"


Or as has been suggested we can keep updating the game constantly and lose players along the way until all that is left is the couple of hundred still playing a couple of years down the line. (just like RS Classic)*

Or we can do as Tyria suggested and give 2 servers (just like PK'ers got) and keep the game for all players of Old School.

After other major updates Jagex could even freeze 2 more servers, for example if the G.E. was introduced or after Rest was introduced.**

That way people who would normally quit could register to2 keep playing on the 2 frozen servers of their choice without losing the stats they have built up so far.

* I have already stopped playing, surely getting people back to play the game would be better than people leaving.

** These 2 updates may be far into the future but I believe if they were offered now they would pass thinks Jagex should honour the results of the original Old School Poll

22-Jun-2013 10:18:44

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