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Lazorek

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I really like the ideas! However, as with the anti-dragon/dragonfire shield, I still see a problem. 32QP and/or the requirement to complete Dragon Slayer will not suffice. There are many P2P quests that awards a lot of quest points, so a person that intends to bot can easily achieve these requirements on their account. Obviously, this is a measurement to reduce the amount of botting accounts and this will definitely impact them. But I think there needs to be a further challenge:

My suggestion is to make killing dragons in the wilderness a medium wilderness diary requirement as well as Dragon Slayer.

16-Mar-2018 22:33:59

OBA

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Turskaboy said :
Duel Arena Changes

"We'd like to implement a tax on all stakes in the Duel Arena. Initially we'd like to propose a 1% tax. So as to allow items to continue to be staked we'd like to implement a Coffer which would require you to add Coins to facilitate the stake."

This sounds pretty unfair for lets say, people who PvM and work hard for the money just to see it being taxed if they wan't to stake.

"The ability to temporarily boost your stats within the duel to max. This option would mean that the odds stakers lose their advantage, and we keep the Duel Arena open. Note that the boosted stats wouldn't affect what equipment you're able to wield. A level 3 couldn't stake with an Abyssal whip, for example. The option would appear within the Duel interface. Players using this option will not gain XP in duels."

3 levels crowding the arena sounds bad.

"A trade weighting limit on stakes which would prevent one side being heavily weighted over the other. This again is with the intention of stopping odds stakers. It would work akin to the trade limit of old. You can stake as much as you'd like, but your opponent has to stake an amount which is within a certain range of your stake."

Trade limit all over again. I say please no. Oddstakers would just keep going and it isn't going to change even if temporary boosts are implemented.



i support this 100%, how can you let a level 3 be able to stake, this will bring a bunch of new scams to the game,a bunch of people just that wanna stake and then sell the gold, you talked that you was aiming to prevent RWT but i feel this is going the exactly same way as ur prevention and will bring alot of more problems than what we already have.

16-Mar-2018 22:39:56

Iron Nyste

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My opinion

- Death mechanics, in my opinion 60 min for reclaming your items is ok, but I agree that mechanics like Vorkath could be ok, you pay xxx Gold for getting your items back, that a good Idea. I'm 100% aganist the old mechanics that made you permanetly losing your items after 2 mins, because of how easy you can die in places like GWD where 2 mins is not enough to ran back for your items before they will be gone, and because of it you couldnt use best in slot gear cuz you'd lose milions or hundreds of hours you wasted to get those items if you play Ironman mode. But I like idea with vorkath death system, that good gold sink.

-Dropping items I don't get the point of that, you can't drops items worth of xxx gold? because of scammers? that stupid just ban every scammer, I don't see point of such a system. that will made my life hard Because I play Ironman if I get item that I already have np 3rd Bandos chestplate I'm dropping that item for my main to get cash for PvP for best in slot items for my non-iron or to buy bonds. for example if I get 2rd twisted bow on my Ironman I won't be able to drop that 1 twisted bow to my other account to use that money for having fun, high risk pking or to get buyable 99? that stupid Im 100% aganist that system.

16-Mar-2018 22:49:40

HedPE
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I fear for the UIM game mode with the death mechanics change.
Potentially thousands of hours of equipment could so easily be lost, and there is not many good alternatives other than it remaining as is, or a gravestone npc like torfinn, in a non dangerous area that charges 100k per death to unlock. Even with a grave npc the game mod would become far less “play-able” and become more chore like having to make 100k to switch up what you’re doing.

16-Mar-2018 23:07:21

Jook Nation

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no thanks jagex as for the drop limit on 07 it didn't work on rs3 and it just made the game more children orientated. we should move forward to being a more free and independant game not limiting content and choices we can make

we aren't children don't try protecting us from ourselves you've already ruined the game once over free trade,rwt,luring don't even think about doing it again.

put up a poll if your that confident but we all know you won't because it would never ever pass

16-Mar-2018 23:13:28

IronNieve
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I personally dont feel like we should stop being able to drop items of value not to mention that the most anyone would drop is around maybe 10m in a scam. Once you have full bandos etc you should of either already been scammed and know the risks or you wont risk dropping it.

I also feel like while it can be sucky scams just have an osrs feel where you go yeah that was dumb i dont know why i fell for that. That being said if it must be done i would say set it to anything above 100m give a warning and make it so you can still choose to drop it because sometimes people like to do big drop parties.

As for the duel arena i think all the changes are fine accept the money must be close to each other. Sometimes you and a mate may wanna have some fun duels where you make money in an hour challenge and one person makes 1m the other makes 13m and you agreed to duel each other for whatever you make. If the limit between each of them is to far then stuff like that cant happen. So personally i would say dont do it and instead just having max stats option should combat the odds stacking you speak about. because with higher lvl stacks where you do 8 ely and they do some other items etc sometimes their not close by 20-50m sometimes more would rly suck if you cant stake that person because of it.

16-Mar-2018 23:32:08

13e
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13e

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I think that the duel arena should have a 10% tax on all stakes. This will take a lot of GP out of the game and will stop people from living at the DA to make tens of billions which is absolutely ridiculous. There's nothing in game you need that much GP for and it will still be doable but for a cost. You can't even argue a point and say that "Some people only play the game to stake." If you try to, then what on earth is the point of the GP? To RWT, that's all. I'd rather have 10k less people playing the game and less RWT then 10k more people playing and a lot more RWT.

I also feel as if people have to tough it out and if you get ddosed or D/C and die in game and lose all your things, too bad. It's RuneScape, it's how it has always been. Try playing the game with dialup internet back in the days and D/C'ing all the time and losing your things to monsters, random events, etc.. I've had many experienced of seeing my gear and items disappear before my eyes and times where when you D/C you don't even log back on until the next day because you know you wont make it back. People need to stop complaining about losing their items to disconnections. It's also fun to randomly see someone's gear pop up when they D/C and die, it's like a little gift for you, it's great. Sometimes you lose your things and people will get it, sometimes others will do the same. Stinks for everyone but it's fun when you get an unexpected gift. It's RS after all, I'm so sick of this game straying farther and farther away from how things were to make things easier and safer for people. Also, why on EARTH do we need 1-5m+/hr moneymakers. These gp/hr rates are insane. I'm content with 500k/hr max. If you don't have time to invest into an MMORPG, then go play a game that doesn't require investing time, stop trying to rush your way to the best things on here. It's what, 5% of the players have a max cape yet 75% of people keep begging for new content. Get maxed, then ask, stop rushing. So sick of it. :(

16-Mar-2018 23:46:54

KyleTheCon
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I'm not a staker, but I am very concerned about the tax. I feel like it takes "item sink" too far. I'm concerned about all of the staking changes, and the Item Drop Scam countermeasures, as they affect the freedoms and the quality of gameplay for the legitimate players.

Item Drop scamming is something that will never go away. There are always gullible players who fall for them, and smart, yet unwise, players who are TOLD that they're being scammed but can "anti-scam." Their curiosity leads them right into the trap: "I know it's a scam, but I want to see what he's doing." By the time they find out, they've already fallen for it.

I understand that you want to stop Real-World trading and scamming, but these sound like some of those ideas where your intentions are good but the effect it will have will only anger the legitimate players, and not affect Real-World Trading/scamming significantly.

We've seen these things attempted when Free Trade was removed to combat Real-World Trading and item scamming. We've seen it when Wilderness PvP was replaced with Bounty Hunter crater and the target system to prevent trading items to players. Then PvP Worlds, the Statuettes, god items, the Earning Potential/Death Potential (EP/DP) mechanics; players had to sit and wait/hide to get EP and skilled pkers made terrible money because their high kill/death ratio gave them very low DP.

Legitimate players paid the price for the Real-World Traders and scammers, and did it pay off? Players were still getting scammed and hacked. Scammers would make players lose their items, not caring if they had anything to gain from it. Hackers and Real-World Traders would trade over items and gold bit by bit, to get around the trade limit.

I feel like we've been down this road before, and all this will do is make the cheaters in the game try harder rather than stopping them, and only the legitimate players will be truly punished.
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16-Mar-2018 23:50:42

EEI

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13e said :
I think that the duel arena should have a 10% tax on all stakes. This will take a lot of GP out of the game and will stop people from living at the DA to make tens of billions which is absolutely ridiculous. There's nothing in game you need that much GP for and it will still be doable but for a cost. You can't even argue a point and say that "Some people only play the game to stake." If you try to, then what on earth is the point of the GP? To RWT, that's all. I'd rather have 10k less people playing the game and less RWT then 10k more people playing and a lot more RWT.

I also feel as if people have to tough it out and if you get ddosed or D/C and die in game and lose all your things, too bad. It's RuneScape, it's how it has always been. Try playing the game with dialup internet back in the days and D/C'ing all the time and losing your things to monsters, random events, etc.. I've had many experienced of seeing my gear and items disappear before my eyes and times where when you D/C you don't even log back on until the next day because you know you wont make it back. People need to stop complaining about losing their items to disconnections. It's also fun to randomly see someone's gear pop up when they D/C and die, it's like a little gift for you, it's great. Sometimes you lose your things and people will get it, sometimes others will do the same. Stinks for everyone but it's fun when you get an unexpected gift. It's RS after all, I'm so sick of this game straying farther and farther away from how things were to make things easier and safer for people. Also, why on EARTH do we need 1-5m+/hr moneymakers. These gp/hr rates are insane. I'm content with 500k/hr max. If you don't have time to invest into an MMORPG, then go play a game that doesn't require investing time, stop trying to rush your way to the best things on here. It's what, 5% of the players have a max cape yet 75% of people keep begging for new content.

16-Mar-2018 23:52:50

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