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big ape dog

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Okay, a 16 year old working at mcdonalds makes £40 a day. That's 8 hours work. Given that there are undoubtedly many 16 year olds playing RS with weekend/summer jobs there are many people that earn this. How many 16 year olds have bills/necessary expenditures? Very few.

Now, £40 is roughly 13 bonds. That's 13m by your estimate (which is not accurate at all as rates are currently 1:9). That's over 1.5m an hour.

Now I ask, who would rather grind rs for 5 hours at 300k/hr than work for one?

And trust me, there are MANY people who would spend their wage on RS.

You really think people are going to spend their entire living wage on bonds? If somebody is willing to spend that much on RSGP they aren't going to be going through an official Jagex system. They're going to get the most bang for their buck and buy through the blackmarket for half the price of a bond.

And that ''MANY'' is probably actually quite small.

18-Jul-2014 16:32:41

Roadrunner

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Inb4 merchant bots buying and selling bonds

I bet Jagex would ban those fairly fast, they'd get more money by selling bonds to them and banning them before the bonds could be cashed out. ;)

On a more serious note, what happens In Vegas should stay in Vegas.

I could care less if bonds are in RS3, I buy them with left over gold on my now abandoned RS3 avatar, I don't really care about how people over there get their gold and it's better they use my fortune ( and I get phree membership from it) rather than use a bot to earn their own or buy it from a black market source.

I'd rather it not happen over here and I'm pretty sure even if it did make a poll it would fail to get 75% support, so I'm not too worried about it.

Would I use them if it did by some miracle pass a poll? No.

Would I rage quit if it passed a poll? Most likely not, but I'm sure I would end up leaving sooner rather than later if it did pass.
Ha ha, made you look ;)

18-Jul-2014 16:34:48

Coramoor

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Okay, a 16 year old working at mcdonalds makes £40 a day. That's 8 hours work. Given that there are undoubtedly many 16 year olds playing RS with weekend/summer jobs there are many people that earn this. How many 16 year olds have bills/necessary expenditures? Very few.

Now, £40 is roughly 13 bonds. That's 13m by your estimate (which is not accurate at all as rates are currently 1:9). That's over 1.5m an hour.

Now I ask, who would rather grind rs for 5 hours at 300k/hr than work for one?

And trust me, there are MANY people who would spend their wage on RS.

You really think people are going to spend their entire living wage on bonds? If somebody is willing to spend that much on RSGP they aren't going to be going through an official Jagex system. They're going to get the most bang for their buck and buy through the blackmarket for half the price of a bond.

And that ''MANY'' is probably actually quite small.

It's significant. If it wasn't why would Jagex have ever introduced bonds?

They make a profit for them, a significant one. Which means it has a significant in game impact.

Have people not seen the almost daily threads complaining about the £1000+ monthly limit on bonds in RS3? Many people will and do buy excess amounts of them.

18-Jul-2014 16:34:50

Itchy Scalp
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I think what would help is if we knew some facts. Its all good and well us coming up with ideas about who buys bonds and by how much, but are any of our assumptions true?

Who buys bonds? IRL money or GP.
How many?
Where are them bonds spent?
What is the actual impact on the game?

If we knew some if this, we might be able to come to a more decisive decision about bonds.

18-Jul-2014 16:36:01

big ape dog

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That is something we could do, limit the amount of bonds an account can buy.

Honestly, I think this is the best solution. Make a limit of 5 bonds that can be bought per month. This would prevent what everyone fears, the mass buying of bonds in exchange for GP, and allow those of us that want to use bonds for membership to benefit and those who want to spend a little bit a month for an extra 7.5m.

Be sure to remember this and make this clear when proposing bonds again because this may be the key to their passing.

Who buys bonds? IRL money or GP.
First, a player has to buy the bond with IRL money to bring it into the game. Then, said player can sell it to another player for GP. After the transaction between players the bond becomes untradeable.

How many?
What do you mean by this?

Where are them bonds spent?
Players use them in their inventory then a window pops up which, in rs3, shows options for what they want to spend the bond on. In OSRS the only option would be membership.

What is the actual impact on the game?
Since they already exist in rs3, no real impact.

18-Jul-2014 16:36:25 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2014 16:40:16 by big ape dog

Ibrahimovic
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Wtf are you kidding? bonds??

So we can now buy 99 skills with bonds just like eoc scape?

Its obvious that the old school mods are controlled by the money hungry eoc mods.. The old school mods said they would never add pay to win/squeel of fortune to OSRS, but now they wanna add it *facepalm*

18-Jul-2014 16:38:04

fighterofwoe

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The very fact that this is being considered is exactly why Runescape is dead compared to what it used to be. Bonds, auction houses, and all the rest of that real world trade stuff is terrible for the longevity of a game. You can't give players items and expect them to stick around, go log onto a private server with all 99's and see how long you play without getting bored; building your account and working hard for things is 3/4 of the play experience.

18-Jul-2014 16:39:11

Itchy Scalp
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Wtf are you kidding? bonds??

So we can now buy 99 skills with bonds just like eoc scape?

Its obvious that the old school mods are controlled by the money hungry eoc mods.. The old school mods said they would never add pay to win/squeel of fortune to OSRS, but now they wanna add it *facepalm*

Its not as simple as 'they want to do it'. There has been some discussion from players that they would like to spend their in-game gp for membership. This is really just to see people's reactions to bonds being in oldschool. I doubt though, from this thread that they will even poll it.

18-Jul-2014 16:40:45

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