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Paladine

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> 23rd May 16:00 BST - Many of you have asked to be able to buy part of an offer instead of the all or none approach. We can give the seller an option to allow his trade to be sold only as one trade or piecemeal. If the trade is set to be piecemeal buyers can choose how many of an item they want to buy from the individual trade.

Elder Scrolls Online has an identical system to this except you must buy the full offer and listings last 30 days. Also in this game, you can only stack up to 100 of an item. So if you wanted to sell 1000 lockpicks, you have to list them in batches of 1-100. For the buyer, you have to consider: "I only need 1 lockpick, but currently people are only selling them in batches of 100. Should I just buy it anyway?". I chose to not buy it and instead spend a few mins looting the room for a few lockpicks. The seller could, instead, list each lockpick in batches of 1-5 which I would buy but it would take them longer to list. There's a trade-off here: individually listing them as MANY people need just a few, or list them all together hoping FEW people will buy them all.

Now in OSRS some quests require a few dyes. If you had 1k red dye, you would have to trade with hundreds of players to sell these individually which would take time. But with the auction house, this player could dump 1k dyes and save themselves time. This seems very much like the GE. Something I wouldn't mind is if limits were set, like the piecemeal can only amount to 10% of the original number (e.g. 1k dyes can only be sold in batches of 100).

23-May-2014 18:22:04

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For everyone crying over it ruining oldschool. The only thing ruining oldschool is people who whine like yourself. Oldschool was never meant to be 2007 specifically... Oldschool was brought back purely for the old combat system. August 15 2007 or whatever just happens to have had a carbon copy of the game.

Actually, no, it wasn't...sad for you that JaGex in it's wisdom didn't make you the pre-eoc server that you wanted, but quit trying to remake OSRS into one, thx.

You can believe that all you want lmao. They would have brought back any other version just as easily as long as it had old combat mechanics. Anything Pre-Eoc would have been brought back, the only reason the year of 2007 was brought back because it was a complete copy.

Yet they had a complete copy from right before the EOC was instated...and didn't use it...hmmm...wonder why that was...could it be that the online petition asked for 06, and 07 was the oldest intact database they had?

...or do you want to pull more facts from dark places they shouldn't be pulled from? 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
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23-May-2014 18:22:48

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Players shouldn't be able to buy/sell stuff whilst offline or doing other things - that's what the issue with the Grand Exchange was.

If we had the entire system implemented as suggested, but rather than an exchange where you actively sell/buy things without ever meeting the person, it should just be a listing, so that you can find someone who is buying/selling whatever you need, meet up with them and buy the item from them directly .

You could also add in extra validation preventing you from being able to post listings for items that you don't have, or offer more GP than you have for an item (with your listing being invalidated if your GP count drops below what you've offered/you lose the item(s) you're trying to sell.

Essentially, a service that helps people find buyers and sellers with greater ease is great - and something that would definitely be helpful. A service that enables people to buy and sell items without actively having to meet up with someone and trade with them is extremely detrimental to the game.

Exactly.

Jagex completely ignored the feedback and just reinvented the grand exchange.

It'll get no voted now so nobody wins.

23-May-2014 18:23:34

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For everyone crying over it ruining oldschool. The only thing ruining oldschool is people who whine like yourself. Oldschool was never meant to be 2007 specifically... Oldschool was brought back purely for the old combat system. August 15 2007 or whatever just happens to have had a carbon copy of the game.

Actually, no, it wasn't...sad for you that JaGex in it's wisdom didn't make you the pre-eoc server that you wanted, but quit trying to remake OSRS into one, thx.

How about we add fun content and continue make it into an enjoyable, living game rather than this insufferable arguing about what is or isn't "old school". Thx.

Glad to...so long as it passes 75%...which according to their own survey, it won't.

Thx.

Then you have nothing to worry about and you can stop complaining?

23-May-2014 18:24:04

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For everyone crying over it ruining oldschool. The only thing ruining oldschool is people who whine like yourself. Oldschool was never meant to be 2007 specifically... Oldschool was brought back purely for the old combat system. August 15 2007 or whatever just happens to have had a carbon copy of the game.

Actually, no, it wasn't...sad for you that JaGex in it's wisdom didn't make you the pre-eoc server that you wanted, but quit trying to remake OSRS into one, thx.

You can believe that all you want lmao. They would have brought back any other version just as easily as long as it had old combat mechanics. Anything Pre-Eoc would have been brought back, the only reason the year of 2007 was brought back because it was a complete copy.

Yet they had a complete copy from right before the EOC was instated...and didn't use it...hmmm...wonder why that was...could it be that the online petition asked for 06, and 07 was the oldest intact database they had?

...or do you want to pull more facts from dark places they shouldn't be pulled from?

Jagex specifically said that the 2007 version was the only copy they had.

23-May-2014 18:24:58

Ortonfan4

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There's no easy answer to this problem, but I'm not convinced this is it. Part of the allure of OSRS is the player interaction (a point that's been made many times before, I know). I see the same cycle as the introduction of the GE repeating itself here.

23-May-2014 18:25:30

Avid Sparx

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> 23rd May 16:00 BST - Many of you have asked to be able to buy part of an offer instead of the all or none approach. We can give the seller an option to allow his trade to be sold only as one trade or piecemeal. If the trade is set to be piecemeal buyers can choose how many of an item they want to buy from the individual trade.

Elder Scrolls Online has an identical system to this except you must buy the full offer and listings last 30 days. Also in this game, you can only stack up to 100 of an item. So if you wanted to sell 1000 lockpicks, you have to list them in batches of 1-100. For the buyer, you have to consider: "I only need 1 lockpick, but currently people are only selling them in batches of 100. Should I just buy it anyway?". I chose to not buy it and instead spend a few mins looting the room for a few lockpicks. The seller could, instead, list each lockpick in batches of 1-5 which I would buy but it would take them longer to list. There's a trade-off here: individually listing them as MANY people need just a few, or list them all together hoping FEW people will buy them all.

Now in OSRS some quests require a few dyes. If you had 1k red dye, you would have to trade with hundreds of players to sell these individually which would take time. But with the auction house, this player could dump 1k dyes and save themselves time. This seems very much like the GE. Something I wouldn't mind is if limits were set, like the piecemeal can only amount to 10% of the original number (e.g. 1k dyes can only be sold in batches of 100).

ESO also limits the guild shops to players in that guild...max 30 spots available per guild for listing sales, 500 players a guild to buy them, max 5 guilds per player to list in....so yah, a little different than here... 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
T. Pratchett, 1948-2015 RIP, you are missed

23-May-2014 18:25:39

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For everyone crying over it ruining oldschool. The only thing ruining oldschool is people who whine like yourself. Oldschool was never meant to be 2007 specifically... Oldschool was brought back purely for the old combat system. August 15 2007 or whatever just happens to have had a carbon copy of the game.

Actually, no, it wasn't...sad for you that JaGex in it's wisdom didn't make you the pre-eoc server that you wanted, but quit trying to remake OSRS into one, thx.

How about we add fun content and continue make it into an enjoyable, living game rather than this insufferable arguing about what is or isn't "old school". Thx.

Glad to...so long as it passes 75%...which according to their own survey, it won't.

Thx.

Then you have nothing to worry about and you can stop complaining?

As soon as you do, dear. 'Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.'
T. Pratchett, 1948-2015 RIP, you are missed

23-May-2014 18:26:28

Lil Rachel K
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You also realise that people ALREADY DO FLIP AND/OR MERC*, Right?

Of course I know that, but it's a lot more difficult to do without an automatic market machine such as the GE or AH. The average player would be much more willing to try it out if they had the help of the GE.

23-May-2014 18:27:31

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