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Haddonfield

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Absolutely lower the passing rate and conceal the results until the end. Voting with the curve only makes sense to get rid of. But I also think this warrants a repoll on many polls of past. Lets save the voting system and start re-polling past polls that were inches away but stolen from us before we move forward with new polls. Get caught up and have a ton of content to look forward to.

17-Jan-2017 13:06:04

Litvo

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Yesssssss Jagex! Finally something worth while coming our way! :) polls concerning pures should only be voted by pures :) ))
Pures being allowed to ape atoll without gaining def experience repolled by pures please!
Yes Lets Go! :)

17-Jan-2017 13:54:34

S Klasse AMG

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Haddonfield said :
Lets save the voting system and start re-polling past polls that were inches away but stolen from us.


A lot of update has already passed even with the 75% requirement. Why are you scared of having content stolen from you, it's not even yours to begin with, who are you to claim credit that it belongs to you in the first place


Secondly, if they were not given the mandate to pass, stop trying to force it to pass. Ever heard of the quote "Love is like passing motion, if you force it, you will get crap"?
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17-Jan-2017 14:08:53

Angel2D4

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Litvo said :
Yesssssss Jagex! Finally something worth while coming our way! :) polls concerning pures should only be voted by pures :) ))
Pures being allowed to ape atoll without gaining def experience repolled by pures please!
Yes Lets Go! :)


Confusion seems rampant.. thanks so much, jagex, for NO clarification that's clear enough for everybody...

From this so called 'devblog':

"In order for an update to be polled to a specific part of the player base, it would need to truly be exclusively a change to only that community."

Pures returning to Ape Atoll would NOT "only" impact pures (it would be a change to anyone training on Ape Atoll because of the influx of pures.. overcrowding is already an issue for many areas). As such, according to this devblog, THAT would NOT be polled exclusively to pures because it doesn't meet the criteria of being a change to ONLY that community.
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17-Jan-2017 17:12:23

Metal Little
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I like the notion of limiting certain questions to players who interact with the content, which should've been done a while ago especially for the GE poll. At the release of OSR, we were initially promised no GE when this version was released, and yet, the GE was still polled and passed, and the 24% who voted no, including myself, were ignored completely. Also, the GE poll proved that the poll system was botched because some people were able to manipulate it, and newer players, who never even experienced RS before the GE were still able to cast their vote. Since they had no previous knowledge or experience of the old-school trading system and bartering, of course, it was going to be an astounding yes from them. That totally disregarded the smaller player pool who opposed the GE and were fine without it. Thus, that poll should've been exclusive to players who created their accounts and played prior to the GE in order for it to have any legit standing.

Additionally, due to the GE, the in-game auto-chat feature has become dead content, and the fledgling TP was rendered obsolete before it could realize its full potential. In my opinion, the TP could've fared better than another unoriginal, RS3-esque GE if it was given a fair chance to truly shine rather than quickly getting overshadowed and usurped by the hasty re-release of the GE.

Not for nothing, but why should it take pures and ironmen to only have say in their updates when the same should be and should've been done for the verteran player base especially with the GE update? In all fairness, pures and ironmen shouldn't be left out nor should veteran players.
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17-Jan-2017 19:04:12

Rbnor

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Forget the Poll system, I want to know why I was "falsely accused of an insulting some mod without any evidence" Which I was never clearly aware of. The second was for macroing of the sort but at that time I didn't have access to a computer but I'll take it. My last macro ban was in 2013 or 15. Not too sure.

Raids, who does it benefit more? Osrs is meant to be osrs, why bring out raids? When a poll passes with majority of the population who votes for something, you should expect for "majority players to participate in that update. If players who maxed 99's have achieved end game results, let them make an ironman and test other game-play styles. If not, then please encourage them to play rs3 or let them opt out to rs3 with their stats or more importantly take a break from the game. Also make it a policy that streamers can't favour/promote their result for polls, because you'll have a list of people who'd dupe that answer and then later realize they made an incorrect choice.

Dungeoneering was good, so was summoning, also the "commands to show total lvl/skill lvl etc. Do the job you were doing before eoc, you did a great job. I love you runescape ily xoxoxoxo
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17-Jan-2017 21:31:17

Barry195

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like the idea of masking the poll results so that certain players don't end up voting based on the current stats and I don't see any issue with allowing players to change their vote afterwards.

On the topic of creating an exclusive poll for a select group of players (Iron men), I see no issues with that as long as the content being voted on has no impact on the other players in the game. I do suggest that if you want to make exclusive polls for pure accounts, then you should do what you did with iron men and create new game modes that only allow you to train certain skills. That way you can isolate the pure accounts properly and design exclusive content for them.

As for lowering the poll requirements for content to pass, I think it's fine the way it is at 75%. The problem that I have with lowering it is that it would just allow for the passage of more updates with less support. Your policy for updates should be " quality over quantity ." If the content being polled is decent, then it should have no problem getting the majority support to pass. Plain and simple. Besides, the current system has been working well, so it would be foolish to alter the requirements.

I do suggest that should a topic being polled surpass at least 50% yes votes, then it should be modified and voted on again in the future. It would be unfair to the other half of people who voted yes for a piece of content to loose out just because the other half did not want it. So, they should at least have a chance to have the content changed and made more appealing in an effort to appease more players.

You should also add an age requirement of a few months before a new account is allowed to vote because this would prevent new players, or those from RS3 from altering the polls for the main player base.

Finally, the Qol updates are fine being done at the discretion of Jagex. They have done a good job.

To end, Jagex has done well, but I urge them to focus more on the older player base.

17-Jan-2017 23:08:38

Thiefz

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Well the purpose of the poll is to serve us "the players" based on suggestions submitted by other "players" and J-Mods alike to enhance our game play and seeing what fits best for us. Though I agree with a certain criteria based on the type of account a person has created, main, pures, ironmans.. the poll should revolve around them so only they can see it. I don't agree with lowering the poll to 70% if people want something to pass they will pay attention to what is going on and vote and inform other members of the rs community to get involved since there are those players who complain and don't care to vote and thus they have no reason to complain about changes made within the game.
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18-Jan-2017 06:34:08

IIIlllIllIlI

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It’s actually a bit pointless to ask community’s permission for changes in the game. I mean, I don’t know how the hell the thing like Great Kourend came into OSRS, but it doesn’t really fit into OSRS landscape. Everything from Port Tyras to Port Phasmatys is true OSRS (maybe Meiyerditch looks a bit weird) and Great Kourend looks like it came from somewhere else... RS3 maybe? I can only imagine that Jagex asked if community want new big island. Community of course said yes, I would have said yes too and then this garbage came out... The question was polled, community said yes, but the end result was still wrong...

People at Jagex should decide independently what sort of updates and changes implement into the game and they should do it JUST RIGHT!!! You guys should know what community wants and what is best for OSRS! That’s what you are paid for!!! And if you don’t, then it’s entirely your fault! I mean, for the love of god, there are people at Jagex who really do understand that. Or should I say ‘was’? How Morytania, Tirannwn and along them quests and other content came into life? Those were good decisions and Jagex didn’t polled any of those. You should identify what is good in OSRS, what community already loves, what makes OSRS special and stick with it, instead of spending your time and energy on efforts to invent bicycle. Here you go a free hint, try to do something good with Menaphos and Prifddinas.

Much the same story with the Raids. We are just few days into this massive content, which according to Jagex was created using great portion of many developers’ lives, and you can say, that this is already a dead content... It’s just unnecessarily too difficult and way too much time you need to spend to get resources or even simple tools. It’s just madness that you need to kill few hundred mobs to get simple tinderbox and axe...

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