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Bunny angel

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epiclegacy77 said :
so if im in a lootshare world if im in a group and we all have it toggled make sure it says who all has it toggled and what they have toggled whether its lootshare or coinshare/instantshare.

also if im in there with my group and we have lootshare or instantshare toggled and a different group comes in i geusse there lsp will work completely separate then my group or is it just for everyone in the room?

only fc owner have to toggle it on. it will take a min to turn on, when its on, everyone in the fc with smiley+rank will get message as lootshare is on.

lsp is seperate for every person. incase 2 group fighting same monster, group which did most damage will be chosen for drop, and a person with better lsp in that chosen group will have higher chance of getting that drop.

03-Feb-2016 01:48:58

epiclegacy77

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Bunny angel said :
epiclegacy77 said :
Bunny angel said :
Adampewpew said :
Lmao "Removing the issue of trust" yes because i feel so much safer knowing that if someone in my clan decides to run off with a bandos chest or an ele, good to know when the next massive RNG swing comes around in the next ice age, one of us will have the great honor of then scamming the next guy.....

Sarcasm aside Loot share is terrible, Coinshare without the generated coins helps EVERYBODY, loot share is just a better way to say "Sorry its my loot drop so its mine, i have not scammed you because runescape tells me it is mine, fair and square, you will just have to wait for the next 1 in 5,000 :]"
ls is for people with patience not for you. no one is forcing you to pvm in ls, you can pvm without it as usual.

i think lootshare will be more just for masses and stuff people that are wanting more fair odds and for people that want people coming back because they dont really get anything.

lootshare is kinda pointless if in a group because they will most likely be using coinshare/instantshare
mass is useless to gain lsp. corp mass teams usually 20+ at peak times 30-40. 800m/20= only 40m lsp. you have to gain lsp in small team 1st. in rs2 we earn lsp in 4man team and join mass like welovecorp.

this makes sense raise your lsp for the bigger drops then go in and get them i was just responding to the other guy saying unless like you said their raising lsp probably noone will use lootshare normally mostly just instantshare i think because who would use lootshare for small drops just to miss out on bigger drops sure still a chance but even with randoms who would use lootshare to take a chance to miss out on bigger drops.

03-Feb-2016 01:50:10

epiclegacy77

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Bunny angel said :
epiclegacy77 said :
so if im in a lootshare world if im in a group and we all have it toggled make sure it says who all has it toggled and what they have toggled whether its lootshare or coinshare/instantshare.

also if im in there with my group and we have lootshare or instantshare toggled and a different group comes in i geusse there lsp will work completely separate then my group or is it just for everyone in the room?

only fc owner have to toggle it on. it will take a min to turn on, when its on, everyone in the fc with smiley+rank will get message as lootshare is on.

lsp is seperate for every person. incase 2 group fighting same monster, group which did most damage will be chosen for drop, and a person with better lsp in that chosen group will have higher chance of getting that drop.

i looked it up and for the normal runescape this isnt how it works you have to click a moneybag then after 2 minutes it activates so i dont know how it will work in oldschool i think it should be like you said but just so the friends chat owner cant scam people make it where if they click it again it will only deactivate 30 minutes later that way people cant scam people and it will say in the clan chat if its clicked again and each 5 mins say how long till it deactivates the fc owner can click it again to stop the clock though.

03-Feb-2016 02:25:30

Gamesman
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Benvil said :
Most of this does sound promising, but as mostly a solo player I still have my concerns. There's the risk that 40% of the worlds simply isn't enough for solo players, who will then start to strangulate and crash each other.

If we had instances there wouldn't be this issue at all, but I know instances is a rather controversial topic for OSRS players, even if you had to pay each time to use them.

However, now would maybe be a good time to revive that old idea of multiple DK's lairs, but expand the concept to more bosses. So that we could possibly have 2-3 non-instanced versions of DK's/GWD/KQ/KBD/Corp/Mole. Obviously this wouldn't be an option for overworld bosses like the wilderness bosses, but that's a sacrifice I'd happily make.
Great point. Maybe we can have it like the kraken cave, with varying instance costs based on the difficulty/profitability of the boss. In my opinion, the limiting factor to pvming shouldn't overcrowding for a set amount of bosses but rather your gear, skill levels, and understanding of each boss's mechanics.

03-Feb-2016 02:55:37

Ika Crow
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"Removing the issue of trust

One of the biggest benefits If you are in a team of 5 and one of your team gets a 50 mil drop there is no guarantee that you will end up receiving a split. For those of you that don't have a group of people to take on bosses with this can be a real problem.

LootShare offers a way to avoid trust being a factor all together. Relying on LSP to distribute loot fairly over time rather than relying on your team to split each individual loot means that you no longer need to be concerned with whether or not your team are trustworthy."

I just see a flaw here, lootshare doesn't offer a way to avoid trust being a factor while doing pvm, specially on corp say you are doing a 3 man team and one gets elysian sigil he can just run away and ignore the other 2 while those 2 would have to corp for many hours to get that ely again, since you would need like 5 arcane sigils drop to get the money lost from ely split. A solution would be a shard like update (as actual rs3) until instantshare could be introduced which would be a fair introduction of coinshare without injecting gp to the game.

03-Feb-2016 04:05:09

Clifton 7

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I think LSP should still decay, but maybe at a rate slower than in the original lootshare system.
I also like the idea of a 'coinshare' system that doesn't impact the economy.

03-Feb-2016 04:48:54 - Last edited on 03-Feb-2016 04:49:58 by Clifton 7

SCryz
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Ika Crow said :
I just see a flaw here, lootshare doesn't offer a way to avoid trust being a factor while doing pvm, specially on corp say you are doing a 3 man team and one gets elysian sigil he can just run away and ignore the other 2 while those 2 would have to corp for many hours to get that ely again, since you would need like 5 arcane sigils drop to get the money lost from ely split. A solution would be a shard like update (as actual rs3) until instantshare could be introduced which would be a fair introduction of coinshare without injecting gp to the game.

That's the point. You go in knowing only 1 guy will get the loot. You even said it yourself. Yes, that one guy got the ely, but you get the 5 arcanes. The loot is different but the over all value is the same. It will just take the other two guys more time. Also one of them two guys may get, say 2 arcanes (still not matched the elys lsp) then get an ely making them profit more than that first guy in the long run due to guy number 1 trying to rank up his negative lsp. Its that Runescape luck we all love.

It prevents the scamming/trust issue because you go into a team using loot share knowing how loot share works. The guy wouldn't be scamming because those were the 'rules' established when making the team.

03-Feb-2016 04:55:00

Trebor

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Lootshare - No

Instashare - Yes


I feel lootshare will be abused by many i.e. pvm'ing and sharing with friends to bring negative back to positive and then joining large groups when potential is high.

Instashare working with the highest ge offer would be fine as players trying to cash in with low ge offers simply wont get the items.

Surely instashare only is the way to go, dropping lootshare all together.

Everyone getting a cash share instantly is the only fair way.

It might take longer to introduce instashare only but the wait would be worth it.

For the time being i will be voting no and hoping you repoll instashare only if the vote fails.

03-Feb-2016 05:19:31

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