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Capt McGee

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I'm not a fan of the Crystal Hull. I find the thought of a stone hull to be a bit ridiculous; why not change it to steel hull? Everything stated here is forwarded from a major corporation. Nothing here is my opinion. Enjoy your salad.

14-Aug-2015 19:56:13

Jared
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Either way, it's not going to pass a poll if getting 99 at non-garbage XP rates costs over 100mil. A lot of people are already apprehensive about the skill, and this just signs the skill's death warrant.

Are there any Jmods reading this thread? Can you at least confirm or deny that mastering this skill will have decent experience rates and be affordable by more than just people like me?

14-Aug-2015 19:57:37

Jared
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2Dew said :
3. No it will not make it more expensive, and here is why. There's a thing called the sawmill where you go and get your planks. So, for making this simple and clear, I'll use mahogany planks. You can get mahogany planks from some monsters, but the main source is people chopping down mahogany logs, or getting them from monsters, and selling them on g.e. The players who buy the mahogany logs grab their wad of cash and go to the sawmill. I believe mahogany logs cost 1250 to be made into mahogany planks. So, if the logs cost 250, and the planks cost 1250 to make, then the total cost is 1500 coins. That is the set, and firm price that will never change. Of cours
And what I am saying is that this will never fly with 75% of the player-base needed to pass the poll. I don't feel people want another skill that costs over 100mil to to master at non-garbage XP rates. We need some confirmation from the mods about how this will work. We want this to pass the poll, remember?

14-Aug-2015 20:03:28 - Last edited on 14-Aug-2015 20:04:01 by Jared

Peniel
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Jared said :
Either way, it's not going to pass a poll if getting 99 at non-garbage XP rates costs over 100mil. A lot of people are already apprehensive about the skill, and this just signs the skill's death warrant.

Are there any Jmods reading this thread? Can you at least confirm or deny that mastering this skill will have decent experience rates and be affordable by more than just people like me?

Well you can't expect everything to be handed to people. Getting 99 in this skill sounds like it will be quite the achievement. I was active on last dev blog with reading it and the replies as well now on this dev blog, and so far I see VERY FEW negative feedback compared to the last one. Of course not many people have been able to read it yet, but I think as Jagex gives out more information, more people seem to sway to they will vote yes. We will see. But I think it's a really cool idea and hope it passes.

14-Aug-2015 20:05:30

Peniel
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2Dew said :

3. No it will not make it more expensive, and here is why. There's a thing called the sawmill where you go and get your planks. So, for making this simple and clear, I'll use mahogany planks. You can get mahogany planks from some monsters, but the main source is people chopping down mahogany logs, or getting them from monsters, and selling them on g.e. The players who buy the mahogany logs grab their wad of cash and go to the sawmill. I believe mahogany logs cost 1250 to be made into mahogany planks. So, if the logs cost 250, and the planks cost 1250 to make, then the total cost is 1500 coins. That is the set, and firm price that will never change. Of course on g.e it'll be more cause people needa make money. The planks will always be around 1500, because the base price will always be 1500. Same with the other planks that might possibly be invented, they will have a base price.

Another example, on g.e magic logs always stay close to the same price, because there is a thing called magic longbows, and people alch those magic longbows. The price is ALWAYS ~1567 coins per alch for a magic longbow (I don't know the exact alch price).

Point is planks won't ever become really expensive, they will always stay around the same price.

If you re-read what I said, I said if they made a new type of log/plank that doesn't already exist, then it will be more expensive. If you use what we have, of course people will manipulate the price for a bit, and then average back out.

14-Aug-2015 20:08:13

Jared
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Peniel said :
Well you can't expect everything to be handed to people. Getting 99 in this skill sounds like it will be quite the achievement. I was active on last dev blog with reading it and the replies as well now on this dev blog, and so far I see VERY FEW negative feedback compared to the last one. Of course not many people have been able to read it yet, but I think as Jagex gives out more information, more people seem to sway to they will vote yes. We will see. But I think it's a really cool idea and hope it passes.

I agree with you. I can personally come to terms with and accept spending a lot of money on this skill, or even the daily XP caps like Farming. The gist of my argument is that I personally disbelieve that, based on the community we have, the skill can pass a poll with the expense or ship status checking. I know a lot of people in-game who actually enjoy Construction, but it's too expensive for them, and others who like the idea of Farming, but not waiting around to train it. This is how I formed my argument about Sailing.

14-Aug-2015 20:08:56

Jared
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Peniel said :
If you re-read what I said, I said if they made a new type of log/plank that doesn't already exist, then it will be more expensive. If you use what we have, of course people will manipulate the price for a bit, and then average back out.
If Sailing introduces the Sawmill Operator opening up the Lumber Yard to having the trees you chop made into raw lumber at a substantially cheaper rate than planks, manipulating the prices long-term would be impossible. This is my suggestion.

14-Aug-2015 20:11:19

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