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Dilbert2001
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The facts are:

Jagex has just raised the price of TH keys a couple of weeks ago.
Jagex is running a brand new bonus TH key pack NOW.
Jagex has sold 3-2 and 6-5 Summer membership packages with TH keys packed in a couple of weeks ago.
Jagex just put TH on the brand new in game Calendar.

Would all these be scam to real world consumers if they suddendly say no more or suspension of TH? I think even Average Joes understand Jagex's plan. :D :D :D


whatever it says must be true, right from the horses mouth
Shame it doesn't post on it's "other" account


I don't know what "it" you mean must be true and what "other account" but at least to me, Jagex's plan is crystal clear. They want to make more money than what they are getting now from MTX.

They are not going to remove/reduce revenue from TH whatsoever since you can tell from not only their marketing plans on TH I listed, shortly they revealed the TH item cycle plan that lasts into 2 years from now. It obviously show they have big plans on TH. They are not robbing TH to pay RunePass because this is simply silly. They want Peter and Paul both to pay, and pay more. ;)

17-Jul-2018 19:41:44 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2018 19:42:32 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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Again Dilbert says: How Jagex spends their money, is again, as I mentioned in several other threads is none of the business of us players. It is their money, not ours. :D :D :D

I'm sorry I pay membership not with bonds, but with $, to not only have access to the game but to expect some quality updates throughout the year, so yes it is my business as well as other people who pay their memberships each month. To say that it is none of my business how they spend the $ I pay them monthly is insulting. I am starting to believe some other posters that you must work for Jagex, your demeanor is rude & demeaning


If you don't like the products, you don't need to buy since it is your money.

Just that you spend a few bucks to buy a McDonald's Happy Meal doesn't entitle you to know how McDonald's spend their money. :D :D :D


But if i payed for a yearly subscription to receive Happy Meals from McDonalds and they start sending me half cooked fries and an empty bread bun, would i still not be entitled to know what's going on? O_o O_o O_o


Aha! Sorry Micky D doesn't offer subscription plan, and even if they come up with a Super Value Subscription plan later, I bet in the odds of 9000:1 it won't be pay once for all you can eat. ;)

17-Jul-2018 19:44:11

Barnabis
Oct Member 2015

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You're right Dilbert, last year I was planning on leaving the game. I stayed because I couldn't find a better alternative. It is now at the point where this company has gotten so damn bad that it might be best if I just don't find a game to play any more.

As it is, I spend more time doing dailies then anything else anyway. The game has become a chore with MTX that pisses me off. There really hasn't been any fun in this game for me the past year and a half.

Jagex clearly doesn't give a damn about it... I really shouldn't give a damn either. MTX and bugs, MTX to fund more MTX to fund content with bugs because Jagex doesn't have a proper QA team.
Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like :@ RUBBISH :@ due to constant TH promotions.

Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions :(

17-Jul-2018 22:43:38 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2018 22:44:20 by Barnabis

Dilbert2001
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You're right Dilbert, last year I was planning on leaving the game. I stayed because I couldn't find a better alternative. It is now at the point where this company has gotten so damn bad that it might be best if I just don't find a game to play any more.

As it is, I spend more time doing dailies then anything else anyway. The game has become a chore with MTX that pisses me off. There really hasn't been any fun in this game for me the past year and a half.

Jagex clearly doesn't give a damn about it... I really shouldn't give a damn either. MTX and bugs, MTX to fund more MTX to fund content with bugs because Jagex doesn't have a proper QA team.


Change "Jagex" and "this game" in your post to "any multiplayer video game developers" and "all multiplayer video games" then I have the same feeling.

The reality is video games, particular the multiplayer ones have gone so mainstreamed that they are all being operated like a McDonald's near you. Everybody is selling the same thing and always trying to make more products aiming to generate more sales.

Consumers just have to live with McDonald's even though they don't like Cheeseburgers. You can always go to KFC or Domino Pizza but they are not any healthier. Don't even ask those fast food franchises to change their menu to Cabbage Burgers because that absolutely won't work for the vast majority of their customers.

If you hate MTX so much then your best choice is some single player game like God of Wars or PacMan or else better yet just don't play video games at all. :D :D :D

17-Jul-2018 23:01:32

Barnabis
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Problem is that I like to interact with other players. Single Player games are just too boring after a while.

At one time Jagex used to focus on content and new things, now the focus is on MTX and trying to be like every other shitty game out there. If anything, it is sounding like I'm better off quitting RS3 and go OSRS as while the combat is boring, there is at least a community.
Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like :@ RUBBISH :@ due to constant TH promotions.

Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions :(

18-Jul-2018 00:57:16

Dilbert2001
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Problem is that I like to interact with other players. Single Player games are just too boring after a while.

At one time Jagex used to focus on content and new things, now the focus is on MTX and trying to be like every other shitty game out there. If anything, it is sounding like I'm better off quitting RS3 and go OSRS as while the combat is boring, there is at least a community.


You know, one good thing about the RS membership is one price covers both RS3 and OSRS. You are not losing anything if you play in RS3 or OSRS. And you are actually getting the full value of the price of that one membership if you play both. So, you can actually play both RS3 or OSRS anytime you want.

Oh... you know too many RS3 players who said they would or have gone to OSRS often came back to post in the RS3 forums about MTX as well as other OSRS issues too. I don't think you will be an exception even if you goes to OSRS. You'll be back in the RS3 forums. :D :D :D

Besides, since you know, or at least think, "there is at least a community (in OSRS)", you sound like you are already quite familiar playing in OSRS. Perhaps you have been playing both OSRS and RS3, just that you don't realize? ;)

18-Jul-2018 03:19:57 - Last edited on 18-Jul-2018 03:21:07 by Dilbert2001

Tagakhlo
Sep Member 2014

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I've never thought of Treasure Hunter as an annoying microtransaction thing. I log on each day, I get some free keys. Where does that involve paying for anything?

Sure, it is possibile to buy extra keys, and it is true that some of the prizes you get with them are useful in the game. Still, compared to the loot boxes in other games, apparently it is handled with much more restraint.

With RunePass, one feels like one is missing out on something if one doesn't participate. So it is intrusive, and I'd rather not have it around, but I'm definitely willing to put up with it, if it's what RuneScape needs to survive.

The first year of Spring Fayre, I made the effort to attend the Happy Hours, and that let me gain the XP I wanted from the event - after complaints, though, they dropped the revenue grab the next year.

Jagex needs revenue. I accept that. The best way is to bring in more players, but that's not under their control.

Of course, MTX makes the game less appealing, so it is not unreasonable to fear a downward spiral.

Radical changes to the game to make it more appealing to new players could devalue existing achievements in the game, leading to an EoC-like reaction - which is really bad when the expected arrival of new players doesn't happen.

And then there's DarkScape. It was well-loved by many, as it made PvP work, but not enough people were interested for it to thrive. Is there any way to learn from that to add an attractive feature to RS3?

18-Jul-2018 09:22:27

Barnabis
Oct Member 2015

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Dilbert,

My character is still on Tutorial Island in OSRS. I don't remember if I even finished that. It was more to see what it looked like as the last tutorial island I saw was in classic. I'll most certainly come back to these forums to continue my ranting about MTX. That won't change, what sucks is all the progress I'll be abandoning towards MQC and even Comp.

Tagakhlo,

Your right, Jagex is choosing between credit card warriors and gamers for RS3. Jagex chose gamers for OSRS and you can see the population difference. OSRS is consistently double the size in players. There is obviously a much larger preference for actual game development instead of the dog shit we are handed here.
Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like :@ RUBBISH :@ due to constant TH promotions.

Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions :(

18-Jul-2018 22:36:11

Dilbert2001
Jun Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Dilbert,

My character is still on Tutorial Island in OSRS. I don't remember if I even finished that. It was more to see what it looked like as the last tutorial island I saw was in classic. I'll most certainly come back to these forums to continue my ranting about MTX. That won't change, what sucks is all the progress I'll be abandoning towards MQC and even Comp.

Tagakhlo,

Your right, Jagex is choosing between credit card warriors and gamers for RS3. Jagex chose gamers for OSRS and you can see the population difference. OSRS is consistently double the size in players. There is obviously a much larger preference for actual game development instead of the dog shit we are handed here.


If your character is still on Tutorial Island on OSRS and you already found the "community" you like so much, then enjoy such Tutorial "community" then. :D :D :D

See? I don't need a crystal ball but I can always tell those who said they would or have already gone to OSRS always came back to the RS3 forums. That's why the OSRS forums are so empty that Jmod Sween called for "condensing/removing" some OSRS subforums. :D :D :D

Don't forget you are a "credit card warrior" for Jagex even if you play OSRS too since you also pay for RS3 membership with the same "credit card". :D :D :D

18-Jul-2018 23:09:46

Barnabis
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Barnabis

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If your character is still on Tutorial Island on OSRS and you already found the "community" you like so much, then enjoy such Tutorial "community" then. :D :D :D

See? I don't need a crystal ball but I can always tell those who said they would or have already gone to OSRS always came back to the RS3 forums. That's why the OSRS forums are so empty that Jmod Sween called for "condensing/removing" some OSRS subforums. :D :D :D

Don't forget you are a "credit card warrior" for Jagex even if you play OSRS too since you also pay for RS3 membership with the same "credit card". :D :D :D


Ok Dilbert, here is where your stupidity really shines.

Jagex is letting all of the official forums die. They can all be condensed tbh. Most of the conversation happens on reddit which is a format I cannot stand. I primarily go there just to read all the J-mod replies.

OSRS players love to boast how successful the OSRS team is compared to the RS3 teams. The definition of success is based on player count, not actual profits. For them, "Credit card warriors" are not legit players, there is a lot of animosity against "credit card warriors" as old school players believe more in gameplay effort instead of mum's credit card to get tough the game.

Credit Card Warriors are those that advance in the game (via levels / xp / gp) by buying keys. Your confusing regular "members" with those that pay their way to all 99's and win all elite outfits via MTX instead of regular gameplay.

I'm still hesitant to give up the better draw distance, combat, and graphics as I've come so used to RS3 play style, but MTX is only making the game an unhappy place for me. If it wasn't for MTX, I wouldn't even have thoughts of leaving. I'm also half way though the champion's challenge in RS3 which I've been working on in the past year... it is hard to walk away from so much. (cont.)
Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like :@ RUBBISH :@ due to constant TH promotions.

Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions :(

19-Jul-2018 21:21:08 - Last edited on 19-Jul-2018 21:26:30 by Barnabis

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