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OSRS may have more players online, but (1) it doesn't necessarily mean OSRS have more total players than RS3 and (2) it certainly doesn't mean OSRS have more
OSRS would need to have >50% of its population to be bots, which would render the game unplayable, for your statement to be true.
The numbers now.
99K total population
72K OSRS total population
12K OSRS F2P (only 13 worlds of their 124)
60K OSRS P2P
27K RS3 Population
We would need >36K of the OSRS population to be bots. Before bonds, RS3 had major problems dealing with gold farming bots taking up the game and it was about 20K were bots. I don't see threads on the OSRS forums or Reddit flaming Jagex for failing to deal with bots, at least this size.
Dilbert, you really do need to get your facts straight. Put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of fan boy. Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions
OSRS may have more players online, but (1) it doesn't necessarily mean OSRS have more total players than RS3 and (2) it certainly doesn't mean OSRS have more
payers
than RS3.
OSRS would need to have >50% of its population to be bots, which would render the game unplayable, for your statement to be true.
The numbers now.
99K total population
72K OSRS total population
12K OSRS F2P (only 13 worlds of their 124)
60K OSRS P2P
27K RS3 Population
We would need >36K of the OSRS population to be bots. Before bonds, RS3 had major problems dealing with gold farming bots taking up the game and it was about 20K were bots. I don't see threads on the OSRS forums or Reddit flaming Jagex for failing to deal with bots, at least this size.
Dilbert, you really do need to get your facts straight. Put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of fan boy. Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like
RUBBISH
due to constant TH promotions.
RUBBISH
due to constant TH promotions.
Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions
16-Jul-2018 22:18:43 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2018 22:19:26 by Barnabis
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OSRS may have more players online, but (1) it doesn't necessarily mean OSRS have more total players than RS3 and (2) it certainly doesn't mean OSRS have more
OSRS would need to have >50% of its population to be bots, which would render the game unplayable, for your statement to be true.
The numbers now.
99K total population
72K OSRS total population
12K OSRS F2P (only 13 worlds of their 124)
60K OSRS P2P
27K RS3 Population
We would need >36K of the OSRS population to be bots. Before bonds, RS3 had major problems dealing with gold farming bots taking up the game and it was about 20K were bots. I don't see threads on the OSRS forums or Reddit flaming Jagex for failing to deal with bots, at least this size.
Dilbert, you really do need to get your facts straight. Put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of fan boy.
99k "total population"? That's definitely not true since OFFICIAL JAGEX 2017 Financial Report indicated they have 765.4k members already. That's far more than 99k, and note that 765.4k is just the paid members, it doesn't include free players.
Again, you don't have any indications from real official Jagex sources that how many bots are in whatever version. Simply saying ###% of bots will render the game "unplayable" simply has no justification. Please put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of anti-fan boy, which I am actually not a fan boy, not one that likes everything Jagex put up.
And please note I mentioned TH and Runecoins, the exclusive features in RS3 bought in close to 30% of Jagex total 2017 Revenue already, that's not even counting the membership payments. Just saying OSRS have "more" players than RS3 doesn't mean OSRS is more important or profitable than RS3 whatsoever.
Original message details are unavailable.
OSRS may have more players online, but (1) it doesn't necessarily mean OSRS have more total players than RS3 and (2) it certainly doesn't mean OSRS have more
payers
than RS3.
OSRS would need to have >50% of its population to be bots, which would render the game unplayable, for your statement to be true.
The numbers now.
99K total population
72K OSRS total population
12K OSRS F2P (only 13 worlds of their 124)
60K OSRS P2P
27K RS3 Population
We would need >36K of the OSRS population to be bots. Before bonds, RS3 had major problems dealing with gold farming bots taking up the game and it was about 20K were bots. I don't see threads on the OSRS forums or Reddit flaming Jagex for failing to deal with bots, at least this size.
Dilbert, you really do need to get your facts straight. Put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of fan boy.
99k "total population"? That's definitely not true since OFFICIAL JAGEX 2017 Financial Report indicated they have 765.4k members already. That's far more than 99k, and note that 765.4k is just the paid members, it doesn't include free players.
Again, you don't have any indications from real official Jagex sources that how many bots are in whatever version. Simply saying ###% of bots will render the game "unplayable" simply has no justification. Please put some actual effort into your research instead of just being some kind of anti-fan boy, which I am actually not a fan boy, not one that likes everything Jagex put up.
And please note I mentioned TH and Runecoins, the exclusive features in RS3 bought in close to 30% of Jagex total 2017 Revenue already, that's not even counting the membership payments. Just saying OSRS have "more" players than RS3 doesn't mean OSRS is more important or profitable than RS3 whatsoever.
16-Jul-2018 22:42:37
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Different players have different habbits. I see from Twitch RS3 has 804,021 followers and 10,227 views but OSRS only has 22,580 followes and 42 viewers. Can I say RS3 blows away OSRS in term of popularity? Nope. I won't do that. It is just the preferences of some players.
Would you look at all these RS3 streams
https://i.imgur.com/UQuqE8B.jpg You'll get it when you deserve it.
Different players have different habbits. I see from Twitch RS3 has 804,021 followers and 10,227 views but OSRS only has 22,580 followes and 42 viewers. Can I say RS3 blows away OSRS in term of popularity? Nope. I won't do that. It is just the preferences of some players.
Would you look at all these RS3 streams
https://i.imgur.com/UQuqE8B.jpg You'll get it when you deserve it.
16-Jul-2018 23:34:40
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Different players have different habbits. I see from Twitch RS3 has 804,021 followers and 10,227 views but OSRS only has 22,580 followes and 42 viewers. Can I say RS3 blows away OSRS in term of popularity? Nope. I won't do that. It is just the preferences of some players.
Would you look at all these RS3 streams
https://i.imgur.com/UQuqE8B.jpg
Some but not all because I am only a causal Twitch viewer.
Same thing on being one of the current 96,067 "online". I am only online some of the time but not all.
That's my habit and preference. But when I am not viewing Twitch video or online a RS game, I am still a Twitch viewer and RS player and counted as one regardless.
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Different players have different habbits. I see from Twitch RS3 has 804,021 followers and 10,227 views but OSRS only has 22,580 followes and 42 viewers. Can I say RS3 blows away OSRS in term of popularity? Nope. I won't do that. It is just the preferences of some players.
Would you look at all these RS3 streams
https://i.imgur.com/UQuqE8B.jpg
Some but not all because I am only a causal Twitch viewer.
Same thing on being one of the current 96,067 "online". I am only online some of the time but not all.
That's my habit and preference. But when I am not viewing Twitch video or online a RS game, I am still a Twitch viewer and RS player and counted as one regardless.
16-Jul-2018 23:38:36 - Last edited on 16-Jul-2018 23:39:16 by Dilbert2001
Real official Jagex sources? They spew lies and deceit and more broken promises then you can shake a stick at. I mean you can try to shake a stick at each individual lie if you got nothing else better to do.
It is easier to believe the the Land of OZ is a real place then the next thing Jagex says about easing MTX and lowering subscription fees. I'm sure Jagex cooks the books, they probably had a total of 765K people that paid some sort of membership into this game during a year. I'd go with maybe 200K that stays for the entire year... that is being generous.
As for the relevance of bots, it is very relevant. You cannot play a game with half the population of bots because all the monsters will be occupied. I guess you choose to forget the days when there were 9+ bots trying to kill 6 blue dragons in Taverly dungeon. That is just one example.
OSRS is more important then RS3. If 30% of the profit was MTX, that means 70% of the income is from subscriptions. With 2/3 of the player base in OSRS, we are now talking about 46% of their income is from OSRS which gets far less development then RS3. That 46% number is going to continue to grow as more players either quit RS3 or migrate over to OSRS. That leaves 23% of the revenue from RS3 subscriptions.
OSRS will eventually be the game that keeps Jagex financially afloat as that 46% number is only growing. MTX is wearing players down. If people were not spending less on TH and SGS, Jagex would not have had to try and implement RunePass to begin with. Eventrually RunePass will get old and less will buy into it and Jagex will need to come up with something new. Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions
It is easier to believe the the Land of OZ is a real place then the next thing Jagex says about easing MTX and lowering subscription fees. I'm sure Jagex cooks the books, they probably had a total of 765K people that paid some sort of membership into this game during a year. I'd go with maybe 200K that stays for the entire year... that is being generous.
As for the relevance of bots, it is very relevant. You cannot play a game with half the population of bots because all the monsters will be occupied. I guess you choose to forget the days when there were 9+ bots trying to kill 6 blue dragons in Taverly dungeon. That is just one example.
OSRS is more important then RS3. If 30% of the profit was MTX, that means 70% of the income is from subscriptions. With 2/3 of the player base in OSRS, we are now talking about 46% of their income is from OSRS which gets far less development then RS3. That 46% number is going to continue to grow as more players either quit RS3 or migrate over to OSRS. That leaves 23% of the revenue from RS3 subscriptions.
OSRS will eventually be the game that keeps Jagex financially afloat as that 46% number is only growing. MTX is wearing players down. If people were not spending less on TH and SGS, Jagex would not have had to try and implement RunePass to begin with. Eventrually RunePass will get old and less will buy into it and Jagex will need to come up with something new. Jagex 2019 New Year Resolution... MTX our customers until RS3 SERVER SHUTDOWN PARTY!
The RS3 Community is treated like
RUBBISH
due to constant TH promotions.
RUBBISH
due to constant TH promotions.
Don't buy keys on Treasure Hunter, if you do Jagex will only make more TH promotions
17-Jul-2018 00:08:00 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2018 00:08:52 by Barnabis
Barnabis, why don't you go tell the government if you think Official Jagex's Financial Reports are lies?
Not 30% of Jagex's 2017 revenue came from MTX, 55% of their revenue was MTX. Membership only made of of about 45%. For the record, players have been spending more money on MTX. In 2016, only 36% of Jagex's revenue came from MTX and it rose to 55% in 2017. Obviously, they are spending more MTX, not less.
Runescape is also one of the top 20 most RELEVANT games on Twitch. So that's a lie too? From whom? Jagex, Twitch or Gameindustry.biz, the site that said from their eyes they saw at the moment of the report it was the 40th most active game?
Why are you still a Gold Premier Club member if you like OSRS so much better than RS3?
Not 30% of Jagex's 2017 revenue came from MTX, 55% of their revenue was MTX. Membership only made of of about 45%. For the record, players have been spending more money on MTX. In 2016, only 36% of Jagex's revenue came from MTX and it rose to 55% in 2017. Obviously, they are spending more MTX, not less.
Runescape is also one of the top 20 most RELEVANT games on Twitch. So that's a lie too? From whom? Jagex, Twitch or Gameindustry.biz, the site that said from their eyes they saw at the moment of the report it was the 40th most active game?
Why are you still a Gold Premier Club member if you like OSRS so much better than RS3?
17-Jul-2018 00:27:42 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2018 00:30:53 by Dilbert2001
I totally agree with you Mexk. When I started playing RS long time ago the thing that attracted me was that it offered something for everyone...skillers, questers, and cb players. Updates were shared among these 3 groups so we all were happy. Now updates are about MTX things, cb updates, oh and patch notes. I have taken part in every event until now, this event I didn't even bother to claim the free stuff. Pretty sad since I never minded grinding for events in the past. The biggest issue I have is that this was one of our weekly updates, not just something stuck in for a couple of weeks. I have no problem with specials at SGS to help make money or TH specials, the company does have to make a profit. But when they say that they do this so they can give us better updates & all we get is another money sink or another patch notes week, one does have to wonder. They start to tack on a bunch of things and expect us to throw them more money, may be time to find something else to do. To be honest, I have made some good friends here, back in the day when we would grind fishing in Cath were some of the best times, I still play because I still have some friends from those days, when they all start to leave, then it will be time to say goodbye
17-Jul-2018 00:55:15
"If you want to enjoy a MTX-free game, your best bet is OSRS. OSRS will always be safe providing RS3 is always around. RS3 is the MTX shield. It's protecting any Runescape-related product from having to deal with it. As long as RS3 is alive and generating income via micro-transactions, the game will be safe enough. OSRS is the only way you'll be free if you can't ignore or accept that MTX is here to stay."
Actually Bond is MTX, a definite pay to win form of MTX too, since players can buy gp directly from Jagex.
When Bond was first introduced in OSRS, there were a lot of anti-MTX complaints too but now players don't even think Bond hurts them.
Give it a year or so, TH, SGS, RunePass or whatever new forms of MTX in RS3 will not be that big a deal to even more RS3 players. Players understand when they see that's what the entire video game industry is doing they won't find that big a deal Jagex is just doing the similar MTX things. Rest assured, there will still be the same few who keeps crying but their actual actions in the game like not just still playing RS3 but buying Premier Club members and RunePass will continue to blow their covers. They still love RS3 regardless of MTX and they know it.
17-Jul-2018 01:02:51 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2018 01:03:09 by Dilbert2001
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