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I was talking about RS is not dying comparing to EQ, GW, Eve and WoW. Don't try to twist it to "doing well comparing to" the other games. Destiny 2 is much bigger and makes more revenue than RS too but we know what happened to it already. Blizzard abandoned it because they think it is dying. What they said about "dying" is its business is worsening, not that they have less players or make less revenue than their other business like Starcraft.

Jagex is not firing their employees. They have been hiring as many as 20% more the past year. Their revenue and profit are going up and in fact they set new record in revenue year over year for many consecutive times already:

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Runescape developer and publisher Jagex posted revenues of £84.9 million in its last financial year, a rise of 14.2% year-on-year.

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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-09-07-jagex-profit-and-revenue-spikes-in-another-record-year

Read that, their annual revenue last reported was £84.9 million or $110 mil, not the $56 mil you thought. In fact, $56 mil was the PROFIT, not revenue of Jagex's last fiscal year.

GW2 has fired over 140 employeed or >35% of their entire workforce. They are doing well? Good joke.

Eve doesn't have more players than Runescape. Just members alone, RS has over 1 million as revealed in RS3's 18th birthday. Eve only has at most 400k members last reported. Please show where you find Eve's player count... and please also show how much Eve made

after 2016

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Even in 2016, CCP's net profit was only $21 mil. That's only 37% of what Jagex's. Good joke.

Don't forget Eve is a franchise. CCP also have other Eve titles including Eve: Valkyrie which contributed to a good chunk of CCP's revenue too.

Eve also was not sold for $425 mil. The sale is based on a lot of unrevealed milestone, UP TO a certain figure.

09-Mar-2019 18:40:50 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2019 18:53:08 by Dilbert2001

10-Mar-2019 03:14:58

Tom Grey said :
TH did so much damage already that even if it’s removed, nothing would change. Old players won’t come back. Current players won’t enjoy the game more. Toning down on promotions and keeping th cosmetic would be a courtesy for the players, but we know jagex too well, that this won’t happen.

To get old player to come back, current players to enjoy the game more, and more importantly to attract new players, games like EVE don't remove loot boxes, they add Mutaplasmids that give random chances to give better drop.

Still think a TH is bad? Still think Jagex is greedy? Look at how the other games are faring with their declining playerbase, finanancial data and players reactions first. Jagex is on the rise in all these categories. Just a few complaints from a few players in these RSOF but almost nowhere else won't change a thing.

10-Mar-2019 03:15:10

10-Mar-2019 09:47:51

Tom Grey said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Tom Grey said :
TH did so much damage already that even if it’s removed, nothing would change. Old players won’t come back. Current players won’t enjoy the game more. Toning down on promotions and keeping th cosmetic would be a courtesy for the players, but we know jagex too well, that this won’t happen.

To get old player to come back, current players to enjoy the game more, and more importantly to attract new players, games like EVE don't remove loot boxes, they add Mutaplasmids that give random chances to give better drop.

Still think a TH is bad? Still think Jagex is greedy? Look at how the other games are faring with their declining playerbase, finanancial data and players reactions first. Jagex is on the rise in all these categories. Just a few complaints from a few players in these RSOF but almost nowhere else won't change a thing. I don’t care about other games because they are unappealing to me. If only there was a common denominator. Oh yes, p2w micro transactions.

I wonder if mtx is so successful in driving people in as you say, why does osrs have more players and no mtx yet. Jagex is losing on the opportunity of a lifetime there.

You don't care about other games then you don't have to talk about them, but look at all these 85 pages, a lot of the discussions are based on comparison of RS3 to other games. Of course, you have the right to remain silent if you don't want to talk about other games with the other forum users on this thread. Thanks.

OSRS don't have more players. They have more concurrent users online, perhaps but even so their number is dropping really quick for them. It is approaching mid day of the busiest and usually the most concurrent player day of the week, a Sunday but OSRS only shows 84k concurent users, far from 150k reached in Nov 2018.

You asked for OSRS numbers. You get it.

10-Mar-2019 14:46:19

UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :

Not my fault you worded it so poorly, you were afterall comparing rs to the other games you mentioned, so its not its not unfair that I bring up some info to see if your statement stands.

All these examples you brought up about employee cut or having lower player count and w/e, yet they somehow not only have better revenue than Jagex but are also breaking their own records. Really, all these numbers you brought up only serve to prove your original point wrong.

Stop talking about rubbish. I clearly showed you the Jagex numbers. Jagex is beating their own revenue and profits numbers as well as member, not the other games. The other games don't break any of their own revenue, profits numbers at all as you continued to self deny.

Jagex beat the other games like Eve you mentioned. I even completely, absolutely, totally 100% destroyed your nonsense with the actual Jagex and CCP financial numbers.

10-Mar-2019 14:49:48 - Last edited on 10-Mar-2019 14:50:44 by Dilbert2001

10-Mar-2019 16:33:39