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Transcendent

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@Kale100

If an item is not discontinued it can be offered again, and still be called rare.

All discontinued items are rare, but not all rare items are discontinued so some rare items may be offered again.

Some Holiday items such as magical eggs are rare but not discontinued.

A tradeable rare from Treasure Hunter should not be considered discontinued unless Jagex specifically says it is discontinued, so you should expect it may be offered again, though there is also the possibility it will not be offered again.

Until Jagex says a tradeable rare item is discontinued it may be offered again in the future. Hi.

13-Apr-2017 23:09:14

Transcendent

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Kale100 said :
So clearly you didn't read the last post. I will append the point into the original because the same idea is being brought up without any substantiation.

I read what you wrote about tax evasion, and you made the point of the definition of something changing, specifically the definition of what "tradeable rare" means, however the definition has in fact not changed although I hope your understanding does.

Players have long called discontinued items rares and continue to do so, though the word discontinued is also used by those who want to distinguish between items which may be obtainable again in the future and those which will not be released again.

The definitions have not changed of what rare and what discontinued mean. Rare means not found in large numbers and in the case of an event not occurring very often, discontinued means no longer available or produced. In the case of a tradeable rare from Treasure Hunter these are rares but not discontinueds unless Jagex specifically says they are discontinued.

Although some may use the words rare and discontinued as if they mean the same thing, they do not. If you do not want any confusion, just remember although an item may be rare it is not discontinued unless Jagex specifically says it has been discontinued. Hi.

15-Apr-2017 18:46:18 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2017 19:22:56 by Transcendent

Kale100

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Nobody calls spirit shields, or dragon full helms, or dragon half shields "tradeable rares" even though they do possess the qualities of being 'tradeable' and certainly being 'rare'. That is because combined, the terms 'tradeable' and 'rare' form a new definition.

examples of this principle off the top of my head...

hot dog - I am not eating an overheated canine
fruit punch - I am not punching the flesh covered seed of a plant
french fries - Most potatoes are not from France. Also France is not particularly famous for frying things.

15-Apr-2017 21:48:20 - Last edited on 15-Apr-2017 21:49:08 by Kale100

Transcendent

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I suggest if you don't want any confusion in regards to Treasure Hunter, pay close attention to notice if Jagex says an item is discontinued or not, and realize if Jagex says an item is rare they are using the dictionary definition of the word rare, and the item may be offered again in the future unless they say it is discontinued. Hi.

15-Apr-2017 23:51:36

Transcendent

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Kale100 said :
Let's hear it from Jagex then and their reason behind it. In my opinion, or arguably fact, that is deceitful.

I'm not seeing any deceit from Jagex.

Rare does not mean discontinued and Jagex is using the word rare correctly as per the dictionary definition, and Jagex tells players rare items which have not been discontinued may be obtainable again through gameplay in the future.

Discontinued items Jagex has said there are no plans to be released again, and are items you can not obtain through gameplay any more.

There is a "Discontinued Items" marketplace forum, and only items which have been discontinued are allowed to be traded there, so anything not allowed to be traded there is not a discontinued item. Only items which Jagex has specifically said are discontinued should be considered discontinued. Hi.

16-Apr-2017 21:34:11

Kale100

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Saying "tradeable rare" to a RuneScape player IS saying discontinued. THEY MEAN THE SAME THING. If Jagex has changed that (they have) then out of courtesy to their players they need to say what they have changed it to.

This is not up for debate. Saying the same point I have already countered does not do anything.

16-Apr-2017 21:54:42 - Last edited on 16-Apr-2017 21:55:16 by Kale100

Transcendent

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Kale100 said :
Saying "tradeable rare" to a RuneScape player IS saying discontinued. THEY MEAN THE SAME THING. If Jagex has changed that (they have) then out of courtesy to their players they need to say what they have changed it to.

This is not up for debate. Saying the same point I have already countered does not do anything.

Just because you want to think tradeable rare means the same as discontinued doesn't mean it does.

It also doesn't mean Jagex has changed the definition, because Jagex uses the word discontinued, not the phrase tradeable rare. There is a Discontinued Items forum not a Tradeable Rares forum. Hi.

16-Apr-2017 22:40:12 - Last edited on 16-Apr-2017 22:41:13 by Transcendent

Kale100

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Tradeable rare means discontinued to the RuneScape community. It always has. End of discussion.

You: No
Me: Yes
You: No
Me: Yes
You: No
Me: Yes

...you can see this isn't going anywhere.

17-Apr-2017 03:07:11 - Last edited on 17-Apr-2017 03:09:11 by Kale100

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