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xox Lola xox
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Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
While UK Gambling Commission's stance remains unchanged, a recent survey by Dr David Zendle and Dr Paul Cairns of York St. John University and University of York supported academic claims that loot boxes are "psychologically akin to gambling".
This is the only reference that I can find to any kind of behavioural psychologist in that magazine article.
Please do post the link to the behavioural psychology report that states there is no link between gambling and loot boxes and treasure hunter and that it isn't a gateway.
I've posted multiple researches linking both. The main need scientific research needs is a more longitudinal study it would seem.
Yes and I haven't seen throughout the entire enquiry anything to suggest otherwise.
Totally true, any proper sources or evidence countering what you have been proving has been lacking.
Totally true. Why don't you ask that magazine to show us the sources? They misreported what the DCMS said about loot boxes and gambling and then posted a correction article admitting the rebuttal from DCMS.
Now that we know the DCMS clearly said there is NO LINKS between loot boxes and gambling. It will help if that magazine can show us their sources even though the DCMS had proven it incorrect, citing even the researcher himself said he can't provide any links.
maybe you should post that to the enquiry so they can ask them for their spokesperson source lol
but in fact they have repeatedly stated it makes no difference really.
margot said they should be looking to the health services, which means Jagex are well... fucked...
Why should I? I have no problem with what DCMS said. The magazine neither.
Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
While UK Gambling Commission's stance remains unchanged, a recent survey by Dr David Zendle and Dr Paul Cairns of York St. John University and University of York supported academic claims that loot boxes are "psychologically akin to gambling".
This is the only reference that I can find to any kind of behavioural psychologist in that magazine article.
Please do post the link to the behavioural psychology report that states there is no link between gambling and loot boxes and treasure hunter and that it isn't a gateway.
I've posted multiple researches linking both. The main need scientific research needs is a more longitudinal study it would seem.
Yes and I haven't seen throughout the entire enquiry anything to suggest otherwise.
Totally true, any proper sources or evidence countering what you have been proving has been lacking.
Totally true. Why don't you ask that magazine to show us the sources? They misreported what the DCMS said about loot boxes and gambling and then posted a correction article admitting the rebuttal from DCMS.
Now that we know the DCMS clearly said there is NO LINKS between loot boxes and gambling. It will help if that magazine can show us their sources even though the DCMS had proven it incorrect, citing even the researcher himself said he can't provide any links.
maybe you should post that to the enquiry so they can ask them for their spokesperson source lol
but in fact they have repeatedly stated it makes no difference really.
margot said they should be looking to the health services, which means Jagex are well... fucked...
Why should I? I have no problem with what DCMS said. The magazine neither.
25-Aug-2019 20:01:25
Dilbert2001
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xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
While UK Gambling Commission's stance remains unchanged, a recent survey by Dr David Zendle and Dr Paul Cairns of York St. John University and University of York supported academic claims that loot boxes are "psychologically akin to gambling".
This is the only reference that I can find to any kind of behavioural psychologist in that magazine article.
Please do post the link to the behavioural psychology report that states there is no link between gambling and loot boxes and treasure hunter and that it isn't a gateway.
I've posted multiple researches linking both. The main need scientific research needs is a more longitudinal study it would seem.
Yes and I haven't seen throughout the entire enquiry anything to suggest otherwise.
Totally true, any proper sources or evidence countering what you have been proving has been lacking.
Totally true. Why don't you ask that magazine to show us the sources? They misreported what the DCMS said about loot boxes and gambling and then posted a correction article admitting the rebuttal from DCMS.
Now that we know the DCMS clearly said there is NO LINKS between loot boxes and gambling. It will help if that magazine can show us their sources even though the DCMS had proven it incorrect, citing even the researcher himself said he can't provide any links.
maybe you should post that to the enquiry so they can ask them for their spokesperson source lol
but in fact they have repeatedly stated it makes no difference really.
margot said they should be looking to the health services, which means Jagex are [/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
don't than idm.
xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
Torgi Nudho said :
xox Lola xox said :
While UK Gambling Commission's stance remains unchanged, a recent survey by Dr David Zendle and Dr Paul Cairns of York St. John University and University of York supported academic claims that loot boxes are "psychologically akin to gambling".
This is the only reference that I can find to any kind of behavioural psychologist in that magazine article.
Please do post the link to the behavioural psychology report that states there is no link between gambling and loot boxes and treasure hunter and that it isn't a gateway.
I've posted multiple researches linking both. The main need scientific research needs is a more longitudinal study it would seem.
Yes and I haven't seen throughout the entire enquiry anything to suggest otherwise.
Totally true, any proper sources or evidence countering what you have been proving has been lacking.
Totally true. Why don't you ask that magazine to show us the sources? They misreported what the DCMS said about loot boxes and gambling and then posted a correction article admitting the rebuttal from DCMS.
Now that we know the DCMS clearly said there is NO LINKS between loot boxes and gambling. It will help if that magazine can show us their sources even though the DCMS had proven it incorrect, citing even the researcher himself said he can't provide any links.
maybe you should post that to the enquiry so they can ask them for their spokesperson source lol
but in fact they have repeatedly stated it makes no difference really.
margot said they should be looking to the health services, which means Jagex are [/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
don't than idm.
25-Aug-2019 20:04:34
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
"Where the offers do not fall within the current Irish legal definition of gambling, such purchases are essentially an e-commerce activity. This would fall within the recourse of normal consumer law where there is dissatisfaction on the part of the customer with the purchase."
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
25-Aug-2019 20:29:37 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2019 20:30:12 by Dilbert2001
Dilbert2001
said
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The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
"Where the offers do not fall within the current Irish legal definition of gambling, such purchases are essentially an e-commerce activity. This would fall within the recourse of normal consumer law where there is dissatisfaction on the part of the customer with the purchase."
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
25-Aug-2019 20:45:10
xox Lola xox
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Dilbert2001 said :
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
Guess what? Jagex has business in Ireland too. They will have to abide to their e-commerce law there to earn their happy money.
Dilbert2001 said :
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
"Where the offers do not fall within the current Irish legal definition of gambling, such purchases are essentially an e-commerce activity. This would fall within the recourse of normal consumer law where there is dissatisfaction on the part of the customer with the purchase."
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
Guess what? Jagex has business in Ireland too. They will have to abide to their e-commerce law there to earn their happy money.
25-Aug-2019 20:48:05
Dilbert2001
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Torgi Nudho said :
Sup, Lola,
Thanks for the hookup!
If you want a really interesting research document look up: "Loot boxes are again linked to problem gambling: Results of a replication study" by David Zendle and Paul Cairns.
I'm pretty sure you'll like this one!
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-22-uk-gambling-commission-weve-not-in-anyway-referred-to-loot-boxes-as-exposure-to-gambling
Shame on media misreporting again!!!
Haydn Taylor
Staff Writer
Thursday 22nd November 2018
Not even this year berty, try harder
Torgi Nudho said :
Sup, Lola,
Thanks for the hookup!
If you want a really interesting research document look up: "Loot boxes are again linked to problem gambling: Results of a replication study" by David Zendle and Paul Cairns.
I'm pretty sure you'll like this one!
Commission tells GamesIndustry.biz it did not find loot boxes are gateway to gambling, despite what media reports claim
The UK Gambling Commission has refuted assertions from the media that it links the exposure of children to loot boxes as a gateway to gambling.
The UK Gambling Commission has refuted assertions from the media that it links the exposure of children to loot boxes as a gateway to gambling.
https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-22-uk-gambling-commission-weve-not-in-anyway-referred-to-loot-boxes-as-exposure-to-gambling
Another committee member cited the work of Dr David Zendle, who identified links between loot boxes and gambling, although James warned that
"We must be careful. We can't necessarily assume that because there's a correlation between A and B that there is a causal link. Those two modes of research are different and I think we should respect that."
even Zendle would say his work was correlational
.
"We must be careful. We can't necessarily assume that because there's a correlation between A and B that there is a causal link. Those two modes of research are different and I think we should respect that."
Shame on media misreporting again!!!
Haydn Taylor
Staff Writer
Thursday 22nd November 2018
Not even this year berty, try harder
25-Aug-2019 20:48:17
Dilbert2001
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xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
Guess what? Jagex has business in Ireland too. They will have to abide to their e-commerce law there to earn their happy money.
oh yh I did meet an irish kid on rs once. think he quit
xox Lola xox said :
Dilbert2001 said :
The Irish government's response recently reiterated loot boxes, bonds, Runecoins, subscription fee etc are no different than bidding on e-bay and other e-commerce activity, and therefore not subject to be regulated under any new regulation other than the existing e-commerce laws:
"Where the offers do not fall within the current Irish legal definition of gambling, such purchases are essentially an e-commerce activity. This would fall within the recourse of normal consumer law where there is dissatisfaction on the part of the customer with the purchase."
http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/PQ-11-06-2019-335
So, don't like it, don't buy it just like all the other e-commerce products. And if you have any dispute regarding virtual items, just treat them as regular e-commerce items you get from e-bay and such and call your local consumer bureau. Period.
Guess what? Ireland isn't even in the uk.
Guess what? Jagex has business in Ireland too. They will have to abide to their e-commerce law there to earn their happy money.
oh yh I did meet an irish kid on rs once. think he quit
25-Aug-2019 20:49:30
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