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Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said :
Dilbert2001 said :
I Lack Heart said :
If you are interested in affecting lootboxes, visit this site:

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2019/04/ftc-workshop-looks-loot-boxes#comment-547730

or send an email to here: [email protected]

let them know about predatory gambling like runescape treasure hunter.


Don't forget to show this to the FTC:

"Our Easter celebration is also a wonderful opportunity to support two very worthwhile charities. Keep an eye out for the representatives of CPSL Mind and The Prince’s Trust hanging around the fete. Donating to them will not only support their incredible work, but will increase the rate in which you find crystallised chocolate fragments. It's a win-win!"


Yes, that's right. Jagex is teaming up with UK charity on their promotions with Mystery Loot Boxes. That's right, go tell Prince Harry about it too. :D :D :D :D :D :D
Dont forget to mention that even drug cartels do charity, doesnt make the money any cleaner, city of miami is build on cocaine and blood ridden money. gambling addicts supporting a charity, but who is supporting the gambling addicts? not you at least.

Don't forget loot boxes is not drug or gambling and this FTC loot box workshop is not about drug or gambling but just to educate the consumers what are loot boxes. :D :D :D :D :D :D

22-Apr-2019 16:07:53

Mini JIT
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Silly question but are bonds also classed as gambling? You can buy a bond from Jagex for a fixed price with real money but then sell it on the GE for in game gp and as the gp you get is random that's gambling?

So by the logic of this thread they need to be removed also. Some people wont like going back to having to pay for membership with real money again.

02-May-2019 12:03:26

UrekMazino
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Mini JIT said :
Silly question but are bonds also classed as gambling? You can buy a bond from Jagex for a fixed price with real money but then sell it on the GE for in game gp and as the gp you get is random that's gambling?

So by the logic of this thread they need to be removed also. Some people wont like going back to having to pay for membership with real money again.
How is it random when you can set the sale price? °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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02-May-2019 15:24:39

Dilbert2001
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Mini JIT said :
Silly question but are bonds also classed as gambling? You can buy a bond from Jagex for a fixed price with real money but then sell it on the GE for in game gp and as the gp you get is random that's gambling?

So by the logic of this thread they need to be removed also. Some people wont like going back to having to pay for membership with real money again.

That's trading or investing for capital gain.

Investing your money in the stock markets can be considered gambling by many countries too. However, except a few extreme communist countries, it is not illegal gambling whatsoever. Don't forget most kinds of "gambling" activities in the real world are not illegal.

02-May-2019 18:14:24

Mini JIT
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UrekMazino said :
Mini JIT said :
Silly question but are bonds also classed as gambling? You can buy a bond from Jagex for a fixed price with real money but then sell it on the GE for in game gp and as the gp you get is random that's gambling?

So by the logic of this thread they need to be removed also. Some people wont like going back to having to pay for membership with real money again.
How is it random when you can set the sale price?

How can you set the price on the GE? Its just a guide price, Say someone buys a bond from Jagex with real money then offers it in the GE for say 20m but say there is another person who really needs that bond and offers 100m then wont the seller get 100m and not 20m?

The example can work the other way so its random which makes it gambling? If the gp value of bonds was fixed it would be different but they not. Normal skilling and monster drops buying and selling on the GE would not apply because you not buying with real money but bonds you are.

Sorry but iron account and my knowledge of how GE works fully is not that good but I know price you set is not fixed, I know it wont take more money from you than you offer but it can take less.

I am not for or against this thread just trying to point something out.

03-May-2019 15:57:26

UrekMazino
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Mini JIT said :
How can you set the price on the GE? Its just a guide price, Say someone buys a bond from Jagex with real money then offers it in the GE for say 20m but say there is another person who really needs that bond and offers 100m then wont the seller get 100m and not 20m?

The example can work the other way so its random which makes it gambling? If the gp value of bonds was fixed it would be different but they not. Normal skilling and monster drops buying and selling on the GE would not apply because you not buying with real money but bonds you are.
You said it yourself, the buyer has set 100m buy price. That's how you set a price.

If that was considered gambling, then we need to shut down (regulate differently) the whole stock market. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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04-May-2019 06:11:03

Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said :
'US Senator's Bill Proposes Ban On Loot Boxes And Egregious Microtransactions'

https://kotaku.com/u-s-senator-introduces-bill-to-ban-loot-boxes-and-pay-1834612226

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y3TZSB2gjg

Yes, ban Bond and all the MTX too. Yes, ban OSRS too. Yes, ban all the multiplayer online games too.

But wait..., I said it 9000 times. Everybody can propose anything. Every politican can throw up a bill but it doesn't mean a thing... just like all the failed US loot boxes bill last year.

And don't forget, this bill is not just about loot boxes but all MTX, and it was supposed to be filed many months ago. :D :D :D

09-May-2019 02:24:37

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