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Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Law doesn't tolerate nonsense, but the enforcement do. If law are always so perfect, then how come Joe from across the street never gets fined for jaywalking?

bUT iTs AGaInsT ThE lAw!


so?

And again, twisting my words, where have I ever said that the Chinese government are cracking down on lootboxes? I only said they've forced game devs to publish the drop rates. Which have been complied. Silly goose, I never said that FIFA or your so called 9000x9000 games can't be played in China.

Sometimes I don't even know what you're arguing about because you just keep changing the subject.

What? You don't know Enforcement is part of the LAW, that's why it is actually properly called LAW Enforcement? :D :D :D

15-Jun-2019 16:51:49

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino wrote:

"Law doesn't tolerate nonsense, but the enforcement do."


You never said enforcement was part of the law but in reailty it is.

Legislative, enforcement and judicial combined to make up the Law.

The fact that no law enforcement, let alone even if there was it would still have to go through the judicial system, law is not against loot boxes even in Belgium. :D :D :D

21-Jun-2019 18:52:56

UrekMazino
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I didn't claim to have made such a statement. What I am claiming is that I never stated the opposite statement. Don't try to twist my words.

My original point is that just because the law is in place doesn't mean that the enforcement of said law is going to be perfect. Tonnes of petty crimes are committed daily such as the jaywalking example I gave, or going 5km/h above the speed limit. But are these heinous criminals facing the consequences of their actions? °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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24-Jun-2019 17:03:27

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
I didn't claim to have made such a statement. What I am claiming is that I never stated the opposite statement. Don't try to twist my words.

My original point is that just because the law is in place doesn't mean that the enforcement of said law is going to be perfect. Tonnes of petty crimes are committed daily such as the jaywalking example I gave, or going 5km/h above the speed limit. But are these heinous criminals facing the consequences of their actions?

I don't care about your definition or I-don't-mean-this-or-that-game at all.

The entire legal system is not just based on somebody who defined what a specific law is. If law enforecement doesn't agree with the legislative people they won't act and that means the law doesn't act. And after law enforcement they still have to get the judicial system to agree with them.

Nobody can pound on the law enforcement and call them "not perfect" simply because they don't agree with their non-actions. They are not "not perect". They don't act simply because that part of the law says everything is LEGAL.

24-Jun-2019 18:04:02

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
I don't care about your definition or I-don't-mean-this-or-that-game at all.

The entire legal system is not just based on somebody who defined what a specific law is. If law enforecement doesn't agree with the legislative people they won't act and that means the law doesn't act. And after law enforcement they still have to get the judicial system to agree with them.

Nobody can pound on the law enforcement and call them "not perfect" simply because they don't agree with their non-actions. They are not "not perect". They don't act simply because that part of the law says everything is LEGAL.
I don't care about what your opinion is on the entire legal system.

In fact, it doesn't even really matter if the enforcement is perfect or not in this case because we're already seeing action being taken.

App Store and Google Play requiring games on their platform to display loot chances. EA, Blizzard, 2k withdrawing their lootbox from Belgium. EA forced to reveal their odds for their Ultimate team, but also not really by only saying <1%. P2W MTX bill getting bipartisan support. UK Parliament summoning game dev representatives for hearing.

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27-Jun-2019 02:21:28

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
I don't care about your definition or I-don't-mean-this-or-that-game at all.

The entire legal system is not just based on somebody who defined what a specific law is. If law enforecement doesn't agree with the legislative people they won't act and that means the law doesn't act. And after law enforcement they still have to get the judicial system to agree with them.

Nobody can pound on the law enforcement and call them "not perfect" simply because they don't agree with their non-actions. They are not "not perect". They don't act simply because that part of the law says everything is LEGAL.
I don't care about what your opinion is on the entire legal system.

In fact, it doesn't even really matter if the enforcement is perfect or not in this case because we're already seeing action being taken.

App Store and Google Play requiring games on their platform to display loot chances. EA, Blizzard, 2k withdrawing their lootbox from Belgium. EA forced to reveal their odds for their Ultimate team, but also not really by only saying <1%. P2W MTX bill getting bipartisan support. UK Parliament summoning game dev representatives for hearing.

Work is being done and progress is being made.

What is happening to Jagex and other over 9000 game developers in the world? Uh Oh! Nothing!

In fact, Jagex is not only selling TH keys, they are running TH promotions non-stop. They are even adding new MTX promotions like Tradable Vic and pay-for-bonus-xp-buff events outside TH. What can you do? Of course, you can only pay if you want to. What can the governments do? Uh Oh! Nothing and they don't want to do anything anyway.

Oh Wait! UK Parliament actually is doing something to games and social media... they decided to combat internet trolls, but not MTX. :)

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/07/uk-government-social-media-troll-review/

27-Jun-2019 02:29:40 - Last edited on 27-Jun-2019 02:32:57 by Dilbert2001

I Lack Heart
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Jeremy Cheng said :
the pay to win era is not coming to an end and you don't "have" to buy keys for every single promotion /thread.
yes and every alcoholic dont have to buy booze every time they feel like drinking, every heroine addict dont have to buy drugs. you see how stupid your statement sounds if someone had gambling addiction? 'i dont do it so how can it be a problem, just stop using what ever you are hooked to duh.'

27-Jun-2019 09:55:45

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
What is happening to Jagex and other over 9000 game developers in the world? Uh Oh! Nothing!
Uh Oh! Someone forgot about our same conversation we've been having for the last few months!

Nothing has happened,
yet
.

Oh, just kidding! Jagex had already been summoned to the UK Parliament and they will soon review the hearings once they've spoken with all of the other offending game publishers. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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27-Jun-2019 16:26:46

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