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I Lack Heart
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'The £45/year was an average across all players. What is the average spend for paying players only?

No details to hand and not something we would disclose.

[Challenged on that answer] Do you have that information?

Yes but not comfortable sharing. Not public domain and is commercially sensitive.

[Damian Collins MP] Average daily user is £45/year MTX spend. That is 'commercially sensitive' too but you shared anyway. Why are you not able to answer the previous question?

There is a large difference between users and that particular number varies depending on the player.'

yeah there is large difference indeed, remove the 100k f2p accounts that never spend money on mtx and you get the average of 4500pounds spend per year for paying customer on jagex gambling, no wonder they didnt feel comfortable to release the number because even they themselves were ashamed of it!

27-Jun-2019 17:14:53

Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said :
'When challenged on how much paying customers spend per year, Jagex refused to provide information, despite admitting that it knew the figures because of commercial concerns.'

:D :D :D

Nobody even have to accept UKParliament.tv's invitation, let alone answer any specific questions they may or may not have the answers available at the time.

DCMS also invited Zuckerberg to give evidence on data security too but he refused. So what?

Likewise, Jagex refuted the person who complained about spending too much money on MTX by asking him for properly proving his real world identity but that person refused too. Why didn't that person give evidence to Jagex and UK Parliament?

27-Jun-2019 18:03:15

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
What is happening to Jagex and other over 9000 game developers in the world? Uh Oh! Nothing!
Uh Oh! Someone forgot about our same conversation we've been having for the last few months!

Nothing has happened,
yet
.

Oh, just kidding! Jagex had already been summoned to the UK Parliament and they will soon review the hearings once they've spoken with all of the other offending game publishers.

Uh Oh! Why does Jagex need to do anything to their MTX other than making more TH promotions, adding Portable Vic and pay-to-get-more-bonus-xp events just because Easter Bunny and Santa Claus keep telling them "not yet". :D :D :D

27-Jun-2019 18:05:48

I Lack Heart
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refusing to answer questions, even if you didnt have to, sure as hell is dodgy. especially in this case where they already answered one question but refused the next one only because it was so embarrassing information and would have given them a great case against predatory gambling jagex is running right now. i would argue the person that has maxed out 5000pounds for 12 straight months is speaking for predatory gambling in this comment section, and he is above me. :D :D :D

27-Jun-2019 18:40:58

Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said :
refusing to answer questions, even if you didnt have to, sure as hell is dodgy. especially in this case where they already answered one question but refused the next one only because it was so embarrassing information and would have given them a great case against predatory gambling jagex is running right now. i would argue the person that has maxed out 5000pounds for 12 straight months is speaking for predatory gambling in this comment section, and he is above me. :D :D :D

For the record, Jagex did not refuse to answer. They just said they didn't have that at hand at that time.

So do you also mean the person who complained about his lack of money to pay for the MTX to Jagex but refused to show up IRL as MANDATED BY the GDPR is sure as hell dodgy?

27-Jun-2019 19:00:16

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said :
Uh Oh! Why does Jagex need to do anything to their MTX other than making more TH promotions, adding Portable Vic and pay-to-get-more-bonus-xp events just because Easter Bunny and Santa Claus keep telling them "not yet". :D :D :D
I can wait, no problem. As long as this conversation keeps going and more people become aware of the greedy practices. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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29-Jun-2019 21:08:00

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Uh Oh! Why does Jagex need to do anything to their MTX other than making more TH promotions, adding Portable Vic and pay-to-get-more-bonus-xp events just because Easter Bunny and Santa Claus keep telling them "not yet". :D :D :D
I can wait, no problem. As long as this conversation keeps going and more people become aware of the greedy practices.

Yes, people are aware and that's why they keep investing in Jagex.

May I have your attention please. The value of Jagex is now at US$ 530 million.

Player are buying into MTX. That's why their new Boss Plutos Sama is contributing more efforts into implementing an in-game purchase API for their games.


Buy spaghetti and get Purple Skin free! Coming soon to a Varpiano near you!

Next will be buy Happy Meal and get Umbral Chest and then, buy $50 worth of goods at Walmart and get Bonds.

What can the governments do? That's COMMERCE in a CAPITALISTIC FREE MARKET. :D

29-Jun-2019 22:30:52

UrekMazino
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If players are buying into MTX, then why has the MTX revenue decreased from last year?

MTX revenue is already floored by the players who want to buy membership with in-game currency, and somehow with the increased player count for OSRS, the MTX revenue dropped.

What can the government do when capitalism runs rampant? Let me give you a historical example of what the government did to the richest man in all history. John D. Rockerfeller, owner of the Standard Oil Company, had his company broken up into 34 smaller companies due to the company having "unreasonable" monopoly. If the US Supreme court can do that to the all time richest man's company that pretty much held the US president by his balls, then I think its safe to say that the government can do a lot to a much smaller and frailer company like Jagex or EA.

Keep letting capitalism run rampant, the longer it goes on for, the harder it'll fall. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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30-Jun-2019 09:15:06

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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UrekMazino said :
If players are buying into MTX, then why has the MTX revenue decreased from last year?

MTX revenue is already floored by the players who want to buy membership with in-game currency, and somehow with the increased player count for OSRS, the MTX revenue dropped.

What can the government do when capitalism runs rampant? Let me give you a historical example of what the government did to the richest man in all history. John D. Rockerfeller, owner of the Standard Oil Company, had his company broken up into 34 smaller companies due to the company having "unreasonable" monopoly. If the US Supreme court can do that to the all time richest man's company that pretty much held the US president by his balls, then I think its safe to say that the government can do a lot to a much smaller and frailer company like Jagex or EA.

Keep letting capitalism run rampant, the longer it goes on for, the harder it'll fall.

What decreasing in MTX? RS3 specific MTX (i.e. TH and Runecoins) almost made no changes in sales. Only revenue of bond strangely fell from £20 mil to £1 mil. Most of the so-called gain membership revenue actually came from the "loss" in bond sales. Jagex just reported most of their bond revenue as subscription revenue instead of MTX revenue.

What does monopoly has to do with Jagex? Neither Jagex nor any game developer is considered monopoly anywhere in the world. What does this kind of anti-trust laws have to do with the video gaming industry?

30-Jun-2019 17:02:00

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