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Dilbert2001
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I Lack Heart said :
I love how the games like black ops 4 added ridiculous lootboxes and Take-Two Interactive Software stock crashed ever since red dead redemption 2 online launch and its ridiculous mtx that they were forced to tune down. all the major tirple-a producers apart from witcher 3 makers have taken the hit. when you build a bubble targeting the children that bubble is destined to burst.


Again, every true gamer knows there are no loot boxes in Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2. It is extremely silly to blame the non-existing loot boxes for the drop of such companies' stock prices. On the contrary, the better arguments is they are making far less money because of no loot boxes, therefore their stock prices are dropping and ATVI are laying off hundreds of Blizzard employees, including the ones with WoW which obviously have no loot boxes there. :D :D :D

Jagex don't want to lose more employees, therefore they have TH to feed not only the 320 employees they had last year, but also another 100 new hires this year. If there were no TH, more Jmods would probably have to be asked to leave Jagex and they might turn streamers too. :D

Again, this has nothing to do with governments regulations. In fact, no governments has said a word against loot boxes since a petty minister in Belgium failed miserably 9 months ago. :D :D :D

05-Jan-2019 16:17:28

UrekMazino
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Again, every true gamer knows there are loot boxes in Black Ops 4 and Red Dead Redemption 2. It is extremely silly to not blame the existing loot boxes for the drop of such companies' stock prices. The correct argument is they are making far less money because the excessive MTX and its random chance system is driving away potential buyers, therefore their stock prices are dropping and ATVI are laying off hundreds of Blizzard employees, including the ones with WoW which obviously have no loot boxes there. Its really sad to see a subsidiary taking the blow for the parent company enforcing the bad business practices. :( :( :(

Jagex don't want to lose more employees, therefore they have the successful MTX free version of the game to feed not only the small OSRS dev team but the entire 320 employees they had last year, but also another 100 new hires this year, hard carrying RS3. If there were no greedy parent company trying to get their return on investment, more devs would probably have to be asked to join Jagex and they might churn out more good content regularly. :D

Again, this has everything to do with governments regulations and true gamers demanding integrity from game devs. In fact, plenty of government have spoke up against loot boxes since a minister in Belgium tried 9 months ago. Despite his failure, people are still trying their best to demand integrity and pressure the government, this is a really good sign. :D :D :D
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06-Jan-2019 05:46:49

Dilbert2001
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Last year around this day, we had White House, UK petititions, US Bills, EU proposed regulations among all kinds of (faked and failed) "government" crap against loot boxes...

Look what's left a year later? Nothing. US Bills failed, Petititions have been answered by their respective governments (UK, Aussie, US, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland... and you name it) but unfortunately to some people the government responses were "nothing... just nothing needed to be done... it is all legal... we don't have anything to tell".

No government talked about loot boxes any more, obviously, because they know very well the blur line is on the real money trading and real world 3rd party gambling exploits but not in the randomness of the game of chance.

Self regulation is always the way to go... and TH is all along the line of all regulations (both public and industrial), and it will be perfect once when they show the odds of the prizes following the Chinese Government's requirement.

07-Jan-2019 01:12:13

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Dilbert2001 said :
Last year around this day, we had White House, UK petititions, US Bills, EU proposed regulations among all kinds of (faked and failed) "government" crap against loot boxes...

Look what's left a year later? Nothing. US Bills failed, Petititions have been answered by their respective governments (UK, Aussie, US, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland... and you name it) but unfortunately to some people the government responses were "nothing... just nothing needed to be done... it is all legal... we don't have anything to tell".

No government talked about loot boxes any more, obviously, because they know very well the blur line is on the real money trading and real world 3rd party gambling exploits but not in the randomness of the game of chance.

Self regulation is always the way to go... and TH is all along the line of all regulations (both public and industrial), and it will be perfect once when they show the odds of the prizes following the Chinese Government's requirement.


Yes because we all know governments can just create any law instantly without having to follow any kind of process such as ensuring the laws are fair and assuring all affected parties get any kind of notice to adapt to the laws. Nope they don't need to do any of that. They just need to put their infinity gauntlets on and woosh no more loot boxes. But we all know the governments won't do anything to hurt these poor defenceless billionaires and their revenue stream fuelled by gambling addiction. And Belgium definitely isn't having to fight against poor old EA who definitely aren't pleading innocent to having lootboxes where every other company that was accused of breaking the law removed them.

Also not forget they have to post news on the subject every single day or else they aren't actually doing anything.
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07-Jan-2019 14:13:05

Dilbert2001
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Ashlin107 said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Last year around this day, we had White House, UK petititions, US Bills, EU proposed regulations among all kinds of (faked and failed) "government" crap against loot boxes...

Look what's left a year later? Nothing. US Bills failed, Petititions have been answered by their respective governments (UK, Aussie, US, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland... and you name it) but unfortunately to some people the government responses were "nothing... just nothing needed to be done... it is all legal... we don't have anything to tell".

No government talked about loot boxes any more, obviously, because they know very well the blur line is on the real money trading and real world 3rd party gambling exploits but not in the randomness of the game of chance.

Self regulation is always the way to go... and TH is all along the line of all regulations (both public and industrial), and it will be perfect once when they show the odds of the prizes following the Chinese Government's requirement.


Yes because we all know governments can just create any law instantly without having to follow any kind of process such as ensuring the laws are fair and assuring all affected parties get any kind of notice to adapt to the laws. Nope they don't need to do any of that. They just need to put their infinity gauntlets on and woosh no more loot boxes. But we all know the governments won't do anything to hurt these poor defenceless billionaires and their revenue stream fuelled by gambling addiction. And Belgium definitely isn't having to fight against poor old EA who definitely aren't pleading innocent to having lootboxes where every other company that was accused of breaking the law removed them.

Also not forget they have to post news on the subject every single day or else they aren't actually doing anything.


So what is the "process"? What laws? Anything happened to EA? What news?

Nothing!

07-Jan-2019 15:40:47

Ashlin107

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Read my post properly if you actually want me to take you seriously and maybe do some research into how laws are made. Instead of you know running around the forums every waking hour acting like you're Jagex's white knight like you are.

These things take months to officially become "Laws" and a few more months to become active after they are officially declared. But before all that they have to be written and approved in which time the government needs address more pressing matters.

As for EA not being dealt with. That's because they have to go to court over their Loot Boxes and court cases take months to sort out especially ones against billion dollar corporations who are pleading innocent. It's not going to be as straight forward as the cases in Judge Judy. Again serious court cases take ages to complete.
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09-Jan-2019 01:36:11

Dilbert2001
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Ashlin107 said :
Read my post properly if you actually want me to take you seriously and maybe do some research into how laws are made. Instead of you know running around the forums every waking hour acting like you're Jagex's white knight like you are.

These things take months to officially become "Laws" and a few more months to become active after they are officially declared. But before all that they have to be written and approved in which time the government needs address more pressing matters.

As for EA not being dealt with. That's because they have to go to court over their Loot Boxes and court cases take months to sort out especially ones against billion dollar corporations who are pleading innocent. It's not going to be as straight forward as the cases in Judge Judy. Again serious court cases take ages to complete.


If you want anybody to take you seriously you should know I have already told you numerous time in many thread including one you made that everything you mentioned was not laws. Bills were not laws and they have been defeated, abandoned, marked 'x", etc.

And EA is not going to Court because there was no Belgium Enforcement sided with that pathetic minister. Please tell us what date is EA going to Court if you want us to take you seriously?

09-Jan-2019 01:54:55

Never RIP

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Lootboxes saved my life.

I honestly spent 500+ days in game.. I have a number of accounts, but I never multilogged for more than a few mins... I didn't log in 5 accounts none stop for 100 days in game, no, one of my accounts has 400 days in game.

I'ma loser baby, so why don't u kill me.

Well, pre th I was a complete no lifer loser.

Thank you th. U required me to get a job to win at runescape! U fixed me. I work now. Not only do I have a job, I work - I'm not broken anymore. Y'all are broken and expect jagex to fix u... But u've got to fix urself homie. I'm +500 days in game and I did it - I'm not a roll model or anything, but things are better for me now since th. If I can rise again after +500 days in game, I know u can too.

U can do it homie!

Get a life.. Forget runescape.. Especially forget protecting other peoples kids from rs lootboxes. Take care of ur own kids. If u don't have kids, who are u protecting from lootboxes? If u do have kids, stop neglecting ur kids to come here and attack jagex about abusing ur kids.
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09-Jan-2019 07:46:37 - Last edited on 09-Jan-2019 07:48:38 by Never RIP

I Lack Heart
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Never RIP said :

Get a life.. Forget runescape.. Especially forget protecting other peoples kids from rs lootboxes. Take care of ur own kids. If u don't have kids, who are u protecting from lootboxes? If u do have kids, stop neglecting ur kids to come here and attack jagex about abusing ur kids.

Cool story, sadly thats not how life works, as a gregarious animal most of us humans arent as selfish as you are and tend to actually care for things, preventing your so called 'broken humans' and not be self centered.

11-Jan-2019 09:03:53

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