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Lord Drakan
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in the Second Age before Sliske got around to shadow-transporting the Freneskae one to RuneScape, but Mahjarrat Memories and dialogue with Zaros effectively falsify this.

Also not sure what to think of The Heart. Apparently it contains a high concentration of Anima Mundi, the Gnomish term for the world's lifeforce. This is naturally an intangible energy I would reckon, perhaps a sort of aether flowing through RuneScape, but we obtain an "anima crystal" during Tales of the God Wars, which is plain weird. The dungeon itself is also bonkers, with all the random platforms and birches and swirling vortices of doo000ooom. Given the presence of Telos, the Warden, it's probably a creation of the Elder Gods and not very relevant to the desert series. (at least I'd fume if it were) The dungeon's interior is probably just artistic licence that doesn't necessarily comply with the, for lack of better expression, rerum natura , and story-wise it's probably safe to gently disregard the place altogether. That said, it's undeniably a huge beacon of power in the desert and therefore significant, but also entirely irrelevant to the story. There's also Jas stirring, yes. Very unfortunate, but also irrelevant to the desert series methinks. Would kind of be a negative deus ex machina (literally) to have Jas pop out and eat RuneScape when we're confronting the Pharaoh, eh.

I guess all we can do now is make sacrifices to Mod Srowley and hope for more desert quests soon. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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29-Aug-2016 13:29:56

Lord Drakan
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Oh, reading through the comments, we should definitely ignore the 2015 Hallowe'en "event", since that is so full of lorefails it's almost funny.

I think we should break into the Grand Library to consult the Book of Light and Day on the nature of the Kharid-ib, by the way.

On the subjects of the various essences of Tumeken's being, recall we encountered his Shadow in Senliten's tomb. What if that was his ACTUAL shadow? Only fragmented - perhaps that was a bit of him that sort of stayed with Senliten's line, and there are other bits in relevant places around the desert? Perhaps even in the Grim Underworld. Actually, probably not. But it would be slightly problematic. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

Perhaps you're half right; perhaps we can't win. But we can fight.
— Zanik

29-Aug-2016 13:35:12 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2016 13:39:59 by Lord Drakan

Captain Lime
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1) Don't think there is a Sultan of Al-Kharid. It just doesn't make ANY sense.

2) Yeah, Senliten is definitely an Ancestor of Osman and Leela. The lack of a curse proves this. But I think it's more interesting that Leela and Osman don't seem to want to rule.

3) I think Simon may be working for Amascut through some kind of third party, perhaps Jabari.

3) There is the theory that Amascut may be interested in Menaphos for the possible Soul Altar in the city, or perhaps for the knowledge the Grand Library represents. However, she also wants to start a war between Al-Kharid abd Menaphos, which leads back to the Kharid-ib. So far, Amascut has done almost EVERYTHING for multiple reasons, and the one loose strain is the Kharid-ib. Makes you think.

4) We are going to need all sorts of Godly help, and have been getting is through the entire series. Icthlarin was helping us out through Icthlarin's Little Helper and Smoking Kills. Scabaras helped us in the Double Bill, and now we've done Icthlarin, Scabaras, and Apmeken all favors. I think we're not done getting help from gods or getting Godly help just yet.

5) The only thing we can say about the Device under Pollnivneach is "Hell if I know." It could be first age, second age, or third age. We simply don't know. The writing is unlike any we have ever seen, the span of time that we know it HAD to exist by is over 6,000 years long. But I can't help but get a sneaking suspicion that someone was chained to the circle in the middle. ^ "Some of those words were
STUPID.
" - Mod Raven

31-Aug-2016 16:53:29

Captain Lime
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One last comment on Lore Canocity: The Heart anf the Halloween event are very inconvenient, yes, but they are the most recent version of the lore. Therefore, no matter how convoluted they making things, we should work with them at least until they are directly retconned. The only other time this happened in the thread was the Sultan thing, which just breaks things so much and is just so outdated of lore that I recommend ignoring it.

But we're in luck, there will be a Jmod Podbean podcast soon on the subject of the Desert Gods, so we may get some clarification, and maybe some of the elusive Elidinis Lore too! And then there's the very real possibility of three desert quests next year, so I am hopeful. ^ "Some of those words were
STUPID.
" - Mod Raven

31-Aug-2016 18:34:44

Captain Lime
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Finally got a free moment, so I can explain a bit more about what I think's going on with Simon Templeton:

I don't think Simon Templeton works for any one man: I think he has a bunch of clients, recovering things from tombs and so forth for each client. These clients could be the Museum of Varrock, Ali Morrisane, the odd collector. However, I feel that Jabari may have been a client at Amascut's behest.

Perhaps Amascut wanted something from a tomb, and due to certain protections (like why she simply didn't take from Klenter's tomb herself) she needed someone else to do the taking. This is where Jabari comes in: he tells Templeton to take stuff. And this leads to good ol' Simon getting run out of Sophanem, and Amascut needing someone else to do some dirty work - us.

As for why she needs things taken, who can say? All we know is that her plans do not stop with the Kharid-ib or another Kharido-Menaphite war. There could be any number of important things buried in some tomb or another. Perhaps Tumeken's Shadow is one of these things. Perhaps she's looking for other parts of Tumeken. Perhaps she's looking for the Tomb of Tumeken itself.

This is pure speculation, so take it with a grain of salt. ^ "Some of those words were
STUPID.
" - Mod Raven

01-Sep-2016 18:17:15

Captain Lime
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Fully updated the Compendium, with a brand new section on the Desert Nomad tribes! Also, revealed some plans for the future. The
Witchwood Compendium
: a paradoxical piratical tome on the adventures of our Pirate Heroes against an Eldritch horror none of them even know exists. ^ "Some of those words were
STUPID.
" - Mod Raven

09-Sep-2016 21:11:47 - Last edited on 09-Sep-2016 21:11:56 by Captain Lime

SurviveDeath

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Finally I got a moment to comment on the Runefest reveal. I was expecting it to happen but nonetheless it was still amazing to see it announced. Menaphos will be a great addition to the game!

Anyways, I was looking at the artwork done for the slayer dungeon and just by observation, I noticed that one of the Devourer beasts had a Nemes Headdress on its head. The Nemes Headdress is one of the headdresses that are worn by the Pharaoh and since the slayer dungeon is in the palace, could it be possible that Amascut had turned the Pharaoh into one of her devourer beasts? Is that particular devourer beast the slayer boss of the dungeon which would require a key to enter the throne room of the palace?

If it were to be true, will we be able to turn him back to human? It would be quite interesting if we had to 'slay' him which would open the way for Leela to claim the throne. The Pharaoh Devourer beast might be a reference to the Great Sphinx of Giza where the head is a human head presumably the Pharaoh's and the body of the lion.

Since Runescape has its own version of the sphinx already ingame, this leads to my second theory that the particular devourer beast is actually a sphinx as well but a big cat species of the sphinx. The sphinx might have been more susceptible under the influence of Amascut as compared to the other sphinx as Amascut's animal aspect is a lioness. As a sphinx who is a guardian of cats and cats protect the dead, this have left the tombs in Menaphos vulnerable to Amascut's meddling.

19-Sep-2016 17:07:13

Captain Lime
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Alright so, this thread has been dead for a little while, and I've been busy with stuff but I'm not doing anything this summer. Since Menaphos is coming out, I figured I'd just rewrite the entire thing. Post things that you want me to include in the second edition here. ^ "Some of those words were
STUPID.
" - Mod Raven

09-May-2017 17:02:08

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