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The Mather1
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SixOfOne said :
Can't find the thread anywhere, but it went something like this.

Tier 1- God Mahjarrat

Zamorak

Tier 2- Mahjarrat on the cusp of Godhood

Sliske (after MpD)
Lucien (Rotm)

Tier 3- Arch Mahjarrat

Azzanadra
Kharshai (before becoming Koschei)
Bilrach (after portals)
Zamorak (before stone and staff)

Tier 4-High Mahjarrat

Kharshai (after Koschei)
Bilrach (before portals)
Hazeel
Wahi
Lucien (before Wgs)
Sliske (before mpd)
Enakhra
Zemouregal
Moia (after portals)

Tier 5- Mahjarrat

Akthanakos
Jhallan (before missing the rituals)

Tier 6- low mahjarrat

Lamistard
Jhallan (after missing the rituals)

Tier 7-Half-Mahjarrat

Moia (before portals)


I've probably missed some here, but it went something like that. Outside of that we know Azzy, Temekel, Salisard and Abrogal were the strongest on Freneskae with Temekel being the strongest. Zamorak wasn't originally too strong but after Tumeken's nuke and him becoming a pretty damn good battlemage he moved up. Outside of that Jmods have said that the strongest mortal character (not dragonkin) would be a straight up fight between Azzy and Sliske. This was stated before CoM and after mpd.

After CoM, I think it might be worth bumping Azzy up to the cusp of godhood. He was already the strongest before it, and after it he says he feels as if the ceiling on his powers has been lifted.
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01-Jan-2017 23:58:27

Hazeel

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ZAmorakZaros said :
I think they should make enakhra the one who killed Palkeera


This makes even less sense.

1) She was busy with Akthanakos.

2) This would have been a betrayal against Zamorak and would be out of character for her.

3) And then what? Khazard goes to Daemonheim and just gives Enakhra a shit eating grin while keep quiet? =P

Sliske MIGHT work but honestly, as sadistic as he is, I don't think he's stupid enough to kill the only female Mahjarrat willing to breed. That just goes against his own self interest.

EDIT: I am a bit disapointed we didn't have a scene with Khazard lashing out about seeing his mother's killer. As far as I can tell, inconsistancies aside, they still have Azzy as the killer.

The Mather1 said :
After CoM, I think it might be worth bumping Azzy up to the cusp of godhood. He was already the strongest before it, and after it he says he feels as if the ceiling on his powers has been lifted.


After CoM, I don't think the tier list makes a difference anymore. They all got so much power that anything they had before is practically meaningless when compared to other members of their tribe.
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02-Jan-2017 00:04:00 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2017 00:06:09 by Hazeel

SixOfOne
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Hazeel said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
I think they should make enakhra the one who killed Palkeera


This makes even less sense.

1) She was busy with Akthanakos.

2) This would have been a betrayal against Zamorak and would be out of character for her.

3) And then what? Khazard goes to Daemonheim and just gives Enakhra a shit eating grin while keep quiet? =P

Sliske MIGHT work but honestly, as sadistic as he is, I don't think he's stupid enough to kill the only female Mahjarrat willing to breed. That just goes against his own self interest.

EDIT: I am a bit disapointed we didn't have a scene with Khazard lashing out about seeing his mother's killer. As far as I can tell, inconsistancies aside, they still have Azzy as the killer.

The Mather1 said :
After CoM, I think it might be worth bumping Azzy up to the cusp of godhood. He was already the strongest before it, and after it he says he feels as if the ceiling on his powers has been lifted.


After CoM, I don't think the tier list makes a difference anymore. They all got so much power that anything they had before is practically meaningless when compared to other members of their tribe.


Pretty much. While some are still more powerful than others, the tier list is now somewhat irrelevant. Even if it wasn't, then the overall ranking hasn't really changed.
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02-Jan-2017 00:40:24

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The text was changed over a year ago, Azzanadra is not the killer.

Original message details are unavailable.
Arrogant. Foolish. I underestimated the humans here. Their golems were far stronger than we had expected, and they got the better of me. And I... Zamorak forgive me. I was weak. The birth of Khazard sapped me of more power than I cared to admit. Pride has been my end.
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02-Jan-2017 01:14:49

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Wahisietel said :
The text was changed over a year ago, Azzanadra is not the killer.

Original message details are unavailable.
Arrogant. Foolish. I underestimated the humans here. Their golems were far stronger than we had expected, and they got the better of me. And I... Zamorak forgive me. I was weak. The birth of Khazard sapped me of more power than I cared to admit. Pride has been my end.


Ahhh so it has. Good good.

Though personally, while not AS bad as killing a female, I found trying to kill Lucien without sacrifice was pretty stupid too. Why not attack him while he was pulling up Jhallen? ._.
Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

02-Jan-2017 03:52:41

SixOfOne
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Hazeel said :
Wahisietel said :
The text was changed over a year ago, Azzanadra is not the killer.

Original message details are unavailable.
Arrogant. Foolish. I underestimated the humans here. Their golems were far stronger than we had expected, and they got the better of me. And I... Zamorak forgive me. I was weak. The birth of Khazard sapped me of more power than I cared to admit. Pride has been my end.


Ahhh so it has. Good good.

Though personally, while not AS bad as killing a female, I found trying to kill Lucien without sacrifice was pretty stupid too. Why not attack him while he was pulling up Jhallen? ._.


While it is a waste of a sacrifice, lucien was too dangerous to be left alive and Wahi and Azzy knew of the threat he posed because we tell them. Azzy is pretty pragmatic in that it's easier for him to take down Lucien after the ritual has been performed when he has been returned to full strength. Remember that Azzy has missed a large number of rituals.

You could even suggest that at the time of death Lucien had actually ascended but was less powerful than the combined Dragonkin due to the fact that no energy is given out when he dies.
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02-Jan-2017 11:40:44

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SixOfOne said :
Hazeel said :
Wahisietel said :
The text was changed over a year ago, Azzanadra is not the killer.

Original message details are unavailable.
Arrogant. Foolish. I underestimated the humans here. Their golems were far stronger than we had expected, and they got the better of me. And I... Zamorak forgive me. I was weak. The birth of Khazard sapped me of more power than I cared to admit. Pride has been my end.


Ahhh so it has. Good good.

Though personally, while not AS bad as killing a female, I found trying to kill Lucien without sacrifice was pretty stupid too. Why not attack him while he was pulling up Jhallen? ._.


While it is a waste of a sacrifice, lucien was too dangerous to be left alive and Wahi and Azzy knew of the threat he posed because we tell them. Azzy is pretty pragmatic in that it's easier for him to take down Lucien after the ritual has been performed when he has been returned to full strength. Remember that Azzy has missed a large number of rituals.

You could even suggest that at the time of death Lucien had actually ascended but was less powerful than the combined Dragonkin due to the fact that no energy is given out when he dies.


As much as I'd love for Lucien to have ascended, the lack of his body turning to stone and him actually benefitting from the ritual performed makes me doubt that.

02-Jan-2017 14:27:08 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2017 14:27:49 by Hguoh

SixOfOne
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While I agree with you, I meant after the ritual actually occurred. Also, we don't know whether jagex had the 'gods turning to stone' idea at that point. It's just a theory based on little evidence. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes

02-Jan-2017 14:44:16

Hazeel

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SixOfOne said :
While it is a waste of a sacrifice, lucien was too dangerous to be left alive and Wahi and Azzy knew of the threat he posed because we tell them. Azzy is pretty pragmatic in that it's easier for him to take down Lucien after the ritual has been performed when he has been returned to full strength. Remember that Azzy has missed a large number of rituals.

You could even suggest that at the time of death Lucien had actually ascended but was less powerful than the combined Dragonkin due to the fact that no energy is given out when he dies.


1) Lucien really isn't a threat......to the Mahjarrat. Lucien held restraint against his own kind unless backed into a corner. The only people he was a threat to were Saradominists.

2) I don't think Lucien could ascend honestly. Maybe in....2000 years or so, but no time soon. Zamorak needed a God to ascend, so I doubt the stone and staff alone cut it.

3) You make a fair point with Azzanadra missing a lot of rituals, except he was using Zaros' energy to take him down, not his own. Heck, if he had done it before Lucien was rejuvinated, he might have been able to one shot him.
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02-Jan-2017 17:02:27

ZAmorakZaros
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Hazeel said :
ZAmorakZaros said :
I think they should make enakhra the one who killed Palkeera


This makes even less sense.

1) She was busy with Akthanakos.

2) This would have been a betrayal against Zamorak and would be out of character for her.

3) And then what? Khazard goes to Daemonheim and just gives Enakhra a shit eating grin while keep quiet? =P

Sliske MIGHT work but honestly, as sadistic as he is, I don't think he's stupid enough to kill the only female Mahjarrat willing to breed. That just goes against his own self interest.

EDIT: I am a bit disapointed we didn't have a scene with Khazard lashing out about seeing his mother's killer. As far as I can tell, inconsistancies aside, they still have Azzy as the killer.

The Mather1 said :
After CoM, I think it might be worth bumping Azzy up to the cusp of godhood. He was already the strongest before it, and after it he says he feels as if the ceiling on his powers has been lifted.


After CoM, I don't think the tier list makes a difference anymore. They all got so much power that anything they had before is practically meaningless when compared to other members of their tribe.

I can think of few movations Enakhra could have had... and was she unable to leave the pyramid all that time?

And mahjarrat are shapeshifters.

Would ordinary golems be enough to kill a mahjarrat even if that mahjarrat is very much weakened?
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02-Jan-2017 18:15:47 - Last edited on 02-Jan-2017 18:17:31 by ZAmorakZaros

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