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The Mather1
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The Mather1

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Yeah, Azzy is the equivalent of a nuclear arsenal, and Nex is a one-nihil army.
Those two together more than equal the power of Saradomin, Seren or Armadyl's whole armies. Though I wouldn't be surprised if the elves could devise a way to weaken Nex if they were to fight her.

They could find themselves outmatched against Zamorak's army with his Mahjarrat backing them however, and Wahisietel and Akthanakos would not be capable of providing much support personally, though they might be able to keep Khazard and Enakhra occupied respectively.

However Char, Vindicta and Gorvek could handle Moia, Zemouregal and Hazeel.
Akthanakos' Ugthanatos could give Bilrach's Kal'gerion demons a run for their money.
The Ripper demons could handle the Tsutsaroth.
The Virii and Nechryael could handle the Alyroth.
And the Abyssals could handle the Byzroth.
And though they are lesser in number, the Ancient Warriors more than outmatch the Kinshra and Chaos Dwarves in combat ability.

Taking then into account the Zarosian loyalist Avernic demons seen in the demon flash mob, the advantage is strongly in favour of the Zarosians over the Zamorakians.

There is a minute chance the Vampires might be able to sway this, but it remains to be seen where Vanescula's allegiance lies, other than to herself.
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01-Jan-2017 17:39:01

Hazeel

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Darc Oejder said :
I wonder why Hazeel keeps on bashing on Azzanadra.

Several reasons:

He's a blind zealot with almost no individual thought.

He's a hypocrite.

He reminds me a lot of Saradomin.

He threw away his own culture and tried to burn it to the ground only to later act like he gave a damn about it.

He's annoying.

He's unintelligent.

He's a self entitled brat.

Mentally, he's very weak.

He's a bigot.

But given how the rest of your post goes, I can only assume you're refering purely to his strength. Yes, he's likely the strongest of the Mahjarrat, but it would seem it was like this from birth rather than any real training, perseverence, or drive, which makes it hard for me to respect him. The power he holds is vastly overrated as well. Sliske on his own could match Azzanadra and we just beat him while he had the staff. It makes me laugh when players still think this peon would stand a chance. As for Lucien, that power was, as Azzy himself said, "The Full Power of Zaros", not his own. This doesn't make Azzanadra impressive, it just makes me question how much strength a God has if a Tier 2's power can't one shot Lucien.

I don't deny his physical power, no, I just see it as unearned and overrated. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

01-Jan-2017 18:07:45 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2017 18:11:46 by Hazeel

Darc Oejder

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We didn't beat Sliske with the staff, they said they wanted to add it but didn't have time or money for it. Either way I don't think we could have beaten Sliske with the staff since it makes a spellcaster incredibly powerful yet at the same time it makes no sense how it just appeared out of nowhere. So just out of curiosity which mahjarrat do you like the most? Bilrach?
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01-Jan-2017 18:33:22

Hazeel

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Darc Oejder said :
We didn't beat Sliske with the staff, they said they wanted to add it but didn't have time or money for it.

They didn't have the time to graphically add it. I believe someone said they were planning to do that in the future, as well as other things like Akrisae's acknowledgement? Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here.

Darc Oejder said :
Either way I don't think we could have beaten Sliske with the staff since it makes a spellcaster incredibly powerful

You underestimate the WG.

Darc Oejder said :
So just out of curiosity which mahjarrat do you like the most? Bilrach?

I do like Bilrach, though I find his intense loyalty to be...questionable. He is, at least, willing to look out for his own interests and does what he can to better himself, but he seems too content to just be second banana.

Personally, I say the goal should always be surpassing everyone, including the faction leader. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

01-Jan-2017 19:04:06

SixOfOne
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Hazeel, why I appreciate a lot of what you've said are your own opinions but I think you need to back up some of the assertions you've made. Where are the examples of Azzy being unintelligent? How is he self-entitled? Your statement about entitlement is pretty damn questionable as you're judging someone based on something they can't control whilst alos forgetting that Azzy after the fall of Zaros is different to beforehand due to the fact that he had to learn how to command armies and hone his power. There's nothing to support your statement that Sliske was a powerful as Azzy before he obtained the staff. I agree that he's not that strong mentally and that he's slightly bigoted but I'd rather him be flawed than a 1D character.

Also, do you really think that was 'the full power of Zaros'? Of course it isn't. That's a tiny measure of Zaros' power from when he was incorporeal, eating muspah and trying to regain enough power. It's most likely the power he got from Zaros at the end of Temple at Senntisten. The Rotm fight isn't the best example anyway as it has Sir Tiffy fighting Khazard. You just overestimate the WG. The WG is NOT the most powerful being no matter which way you look at it. Also, if you think that Sliske didn't want us to stab him with the Siphon then you've missed the entire point of the cutscene. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes

01-Jan-2017 20:33:33 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2017 20:44:59 by SixOfOne

Hazeel

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SixOfOne said :
Hazeel, why I appreciate a lot of what you've said are your own opinions I think you need to back up some of the assertions you've made.

That's fair. I was trying to keep my posts sizable and not multipage rants, but I'll give a few examples at stand out.

SixOfOne said :
Where are the examples of Azzy being unintelligent?

I'll admit his blind devotion and stupidity overlap at times, like after Zaros' banishment when he didn't question the voices in his head screaming for vengeance. Someone who has known Zaros as long as him should realize he wouldn't be demanding vengeance.

But moving past Zaros, if I were to list the biggest offender of his idiocy, it would be trusting Sliske...repeatedly. Especailly considering he doesn't even like Sliske.

The only thing that rivals this is him needlessly killing one of the last females willing to breed in his race, but since we're not sure if that's remained canon, I'll leave it for now.

SixOfOne said :
How is he self-entitled?

One example is acting like I owe him and Zaros anything in FoTG when I have done nothing but help them.

SixOfOne said :
Your statement about entitlement is pretty damn questionable as you're judging someone based on natural talent whilst forgetting that Azzy after the fall of Zaros is different to before hand due to the fact that he had to learn how to command armies and hone his power.

He got sealed shortly after. He hardly did much, if any, commanding. Nex is the one who led them throughout the third age.

SixOfOne said :
There's nothing to support your statement that Sliske was a powerful as Azzy before he obtained the staff.

I didn't say "before", I said "without". J Mod quotes and the tier list support this. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

01-Jan-2017 20:55:55

SixOfOne
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Him killing Palkeera didn't happen. Jagex messed up the dates. He was already sealed when Palkeera died. Although regardless of that we don't know how many female mahjarrat there were still around at that time and bearing in mind they were at war, removing more potential future threats isn't exactly a bad plan.

He did help plan the Zarosian counterattack with Nex, so he certainly has experience and it is stated in canon that he was the General of Zaros' forces after the fall. I'll give you the bit about self-entitled as I'm not familiar enough with the transcript.

I understand why he trusted Sliske even though he didn't like him or trust him all the time. Even though it was mistaken he viewed Sliske and him as having a blood bond and had no way of knowing what really happened. Outside of that he has never shown himself to be unintelligent. I feel you're confusing it with extreme loyalty all too often. I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes

01-Jan-2017 21:04:55 - Last edited on 01-Jan-2017 21:07:52 by SixOfOne

ZAmorakZaros
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Darc Oejder said :
I wonder why Hazeel keeps on bashing on Azzanadra. It has been stated many times that he is very powerful and must be the strongest Mahjarrat now that Zamorak is a god. The mods even said that even when Zammy was Legatus Maximus Azzy still had more raw power but Zamorak was the better fighter. He had slightly less hp than Zemoregal in the RotM but common he missed over a dozen rituals and we know he was imprisoned so he didnt power down like Bilrach and Kharshai. He saved 1/5 of the mahjarrat from a freaking nuke and almost killed Lucien who was empowered by the stone and the staff. The guy is op as hell.
Most people see him being the most powerful as a fact. And with our current knowledge he seems to be a battlemage. But that is not necessarily a good thing. In a 1on1 battle he is great but if you are fighting an army it is better to have a mahjarrat like Zemouregal or Bilrach. Necromancers and summoners are a great thing to have in those situations. NO
I do not ship ZamorakxZaros.
I follow them. And Marimbo, the best t5 god.

01-Jan-2017 21:46:19

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