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Apr

2012

Siegfreid

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Well I'll be, the Bandosians got thrown a bone. One with a fair of flesh still on it, too.

Perhaps there's hope for other constantly ragged on factions yet.

Still, interesting to see. Granted the player is whitewashing Bandos and his philosophy. I honestly thought TMF would be the last we'd ever see of the Bandosians.

The

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We are united in Saradomin's light. From this unity we draw strength.

19-Feb-2016 08:09:34

Dec

2019

Bandosian

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Lego Miester said :
Bandosian said :
AttilaSquare said :
This is great! I hope Jagex sees the unified support of the lore hounds for making each faction respectable like this!

I did not expect this thread to go as far as it has been going, but it is amazing to see the respect from all sides. Jagex is indeed stepping in the right direction with dialogue and overall questing. I really appreciate everyone supporting the idea that all sides matter and equally deserve a part. If Bandos is dead, and Jagex is still going to make us Bandosians a part of the game, then other sides are surely to come into the light as well!

I tend to like to quote Zaros on Bandos:

Zaros: [Bandos] He had a brilliant strategic mind and an innate ability to expose the truth in any situation. If only he could have curtailed his eternal desire for war, he might have proven useful.

But it keeps going.

I have more interest in the one who defeated him, and in those who will succeed him.

Player: Succeed him?

Zaros: The god may die, but the philosophy is eternal. In time, another will grow to take his place, be they a god or not.

I was actually speaking to Zaros today and this was the same dialogue. However, just to add some more fun this is what he tells me right after that sentence:

Zaros:

I note that you are still a follower of Bandos, even in spite of his death. You need not fear me.

Zaros:

By all means, continue to inhabit his philosophy. I will not ask anything of you that conflicts with your beliefs.

Zaros:

Though do not make the mistake of challenging me directly.

"I see a world where there is no need to flatter and deceive: where power is there to be taken by those with the strength to do so." - Bandos

19-Feb-2016 08:39:12

Balustan

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Siegfreid said :

Well I'll be, the Bandosians got thrown a bone. One with a fair of flesh still on it, too.

Perhaps there's hope for other constantly ragged on factions yet.

Still, interesting to see. Granted the player is whitewashing Bandos and his philosophy. I honestly thought TMF would be the last we'd ever see of the Bandosians.

So did we all because I think it's pretty easy to tell that it was a lazy write off. Though I think some of the interest in Bandos may have made them reconsider. Plenty of us like him as a character and a villain even if we wouldn't follow him as part of a faction.

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19-Feb-2016 08:41:26

Dec

2019

Bandosian

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Balustan said :
Siegfreid said :

Well I'll be, the Bandosians got thrown a bone. One with a fair of flesh still on it, too.

Perhaps there's hope for other constantly ragged on factions yet.

Still, interesting to see. Granted the player is whitewashing Bandos and his philosophy. I honestly thought TMF would be the last we'd ever see of the Bandosians.

So did we all because I think it's pretty easy to tell that it was a lazy write off. Though I think some of the interest in Bandos may have made them reconsider. Plenty of us like him as a character and a villain even if we wouldn't follow him as part of a faction.

I believe Bandos had so much potential as a character especially in the Sixth Age. I really feel he was killed off really early. And "The Mighty Fall" was pretty good, but it did feel like a quick wrap up of things. As I kept playing through it felt like it was just trying to quickly clean up the Bandosian faction and never have content again for us.

"I see a world where there is no need to flatter and deceive: where power is there to be taken by those with the strength to do so." - Bandos

19-Feb-2016 08:48:58

Balustan

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Bandosian said :

I believe Bandos had so much potential as a character especially in the Sixth Age. I really feel he was killed off really early. And "The Mighty Fall" was pretty good, but it did feel like a quick wrap up of things. As I kept playing through it felt like it was just trying to quickly clean up the Bandosian faction and never have content again for us.

I completely agree. I think they have accidentally created a way they can salvage him and have him be alive but I don't think they'll do it. A totally in character way btw. I won't say what because if I do the less likely they are to do it.

Though Bandos isn't the only thing with this problem in the 6th age. A lot of what Jagex do in writing quests now is close a lot of stuff off so they never have to write about it again. V______ and even the non-6th age Drakan were one and done characters. Tarshak given the power of a god and immediately dies.

It's a really bad way of writing things. I can sort of get their fear of never getting to writing about the this left unfinished again and there will inevitably be people who want to find out about certain things and keep requesting them but there is always going to be that and so trying to close it off and wrap it up in a nice bow just comes off as really poor.

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19-Feb-2016 08:57:00

Dec

2019

Bandosian

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Balustan said :
Bandosian said :

I believe Bandos had so much potential as a character especially in the Sixth Age. I really feel he was killed off really early. And "The Mighty Fall" was pretty good, but it did feel like a quick wrap up of things. As I kept playing through it felt like it was just trying to quickly clean up the Bandosian faction and never have content again for us.

I completely agree. I think they have accidentally created a way they can salvage him and have him be alive but I don't think they'll do it. A totally in character way btw. I won't say what because if I do the less likely they are to do it.

Though Bandos isn't the only thing with this problem in the 6th age. A lot of what Jagex do in writing quests now is close a lot of stuff off so they never have to write about it again. V______ and even the non-6th age Drakan were one and done characters. Tarshak given the power of a god and immediately dies.

It's a really bad way of writing things. I can sort of get their fear of never getting to writing about the this left unfinished again and there will inevitably be people who want to find out about certain things and keep requesting them but there is always going to be that and so trying to close it off and wrap it up in a nice bow just comes off as really poor.

If they are going in the direction it seems they are going, leaving more choice to the player and more recognition about who the player is and what they stand for... they are doing good. I think they are getting better, and if they have made mistakes I can hope they will learn from them. Let's see what the new quests bring us. I hope they see our appreciation and concerns, but I have hope.

"I see a world where there is no need to flatter and deceive: where power is there to be taken by those with the strength to do so." - Bandos

19-Feb-2016 09:06:22

Balustan

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It's mostly false choice though and in the end means nothing.every so often they also bring up the godless as protagonists and the gods as the antagonists and it's pretty clear they still consider the world guardian stopping the gods as the good choice and it's not exactly a confidence booster. I don't think they can do choice well in the game and still have a story that can be written or works on any level.

I am willing to give them a chance on the Dragonkin and Elder God stories but as far as Sliske's contest has gone it's a wash as far as I'm concerned.

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19-Feb-2016 09:14:21

Sep

2010

Lord Drakan

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Zanik is right though, Bandos was a totalitarian, sadistic despot, a cunning, lying, manipulative monster. (best villain character in the entire game, too - hail John A!) Ideals of strength aside, there is nothing - NOTHING - that could justify the brutal murder of a close friend, especially not religious views, which, speaking in general, are not a valid justification for anything.

The Big High War God's death was executed quite badly, but then he should never have been involved with the Sixth Age business in the first place. It's a shame when great series end, but when they do, accept it. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

Perhaps you're half right; perhaps we can't win. But we can fight.

— Zanik

01-Mar-2016 18:30:22 - Last edited on 01-Mar-2016 18:35:58 by Lord Drakan

RazakTheMage

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Lord Drakan said :
Zanik is right though, Bandos was a totalitarian, sadistic despot, a cunning, lying, manipulative monster. (best villain character in the entire game, too - hail John A!).
Hail John A indeed! I loved Bandos as a villain. I completed the Dorgeshuun quest series only after the world event and only then i realized how much was taken from us, how much amazing story potential. I really wanted to settle things with Bandos myself (even though I'd totally get obliterated by him, hey plot armor is still a thing). Also, just like one person said earlier in the thread, his death can't be experienced by people who came later because it was an event. They could see the cutscene but if they'll just do quests one after another it'll be quite the plot hole to see him alive and well in MPD and then he's dead in TMF. I really hope such important matters won't be solved by world events anymore.

Friend of the Dorgeshuun

01-Mar-2016 20:00:36

Raleirosen

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Lord Drakan said :
Ideals of strength aside, there is nothing - NOTHING - that could justify the brutal murder of a close friend, especially not religious views, which, speaking in general, are not a valid justification for anything.
1) I disagree
2) Not every player considers/considered Zanik to be a "close friend" Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

01-Mar-2016 20:05:43

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