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Chaos Lupus

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I'm glad that they actually provided intelligible dialogue from the Bandosian perspective. I really wish they had done more with the philosophy while Bandos was still alive.

Roland Lyons said :
I mean each of the factions have perfectly valid, truthful reasons to align with, even if, as quoted above, the original ideology itself is questionable, or if the figurehead themselves are completely twisted. It's just that some factions good aspects aren't as readily apparent as others, with the Bandosians being the poster child of it.[/quote
That's the beauty of it. Take us Saradominists for example, we have people ranging from friendly knights and wizards to psychopaths like Sigmund.

Zamorak has decent people like Daquarius to monsters like Jerrod.

It's all perspective.

In Jerrod's defense, he was blooded. Then again, so were the other mature werewolves from Canifis and most aren't quite as sadistic as him.
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16-Feb-2016 05:14:50 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2016 05:17:14 by Chaos Lupus

Padomenes

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If you chose to let her live her dialogue is interesting when you asked about how she died on Yu'Bisk. She says as she wondered into Yu'Bisk a part of Bandos' consciousness still survived in her despite his main body's death by Armadyl. Bandos tried to claw his way out of Zanik or something, tried to kill her in general in a last attempt to survive. By letting Zanik live and wander into the wastelands of Yu'Biusk you gave her enough time to fend him off. Even though Bandos managed to kill her in the end he was too late and the last piece of himself died along with her permanently. The last segment of Bandos' consciousness may have escaped for those who have chosen to kill Zanik so I think. Bandos was desperately trying to survive and reform by using the part left of himself inside Zanik.

What could he be planning to do or where to go to for players who have released him/helped him survive by killing Zanik quickly? Is it possible he could have taken the Bandosian world guardian's body as his new host or not by transferring to them?

16-Feb-2016 05:30:33 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2016 05:38:36 by Padomenes

Lego Miester
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Bandos: Well, I see you still have your spine! Forget your goblin friends, cowering in their caves, YOU belong in battle!

That was beautiful. If it didn't require killing Zanik, I wish I could've said that. For as much as I think Zanik embodies the strength of will Bandos admires, she lacks all of the physical strength. By doing so, she gets in way over her head, gets captured and you have to come to her rescue, time and time again.

So maybe I'm not a "real" Bandosian, using that strength to protect the weak. As far as I'm concerned, with him dead, let the better parts of his philosophy ring true, and the more horrible parts go off in that corner where we don't have to look at them. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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16-Feb-2016 06:14:53 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2016 06:24:51 by Lego Miester

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Bandosian said :

Zanik:
No. Not today. Bandos is wrong and his beliefs are dangerous, but perhaps if his followers were more like you...


Zanik:
It's not Bandos that gives you that power, or his philosophy, but you and your interpretation of it.


Zanik:
If the Bandosians were more like you, perhaps there would be fewer monsters.


Whoa.

Dangit Zanik stop making me wish I'd killed you for the dialogue. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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16-Feb-2016 06:27:47

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Lego Miester said :
...So maybe I'm not a "real" Bandosian, using that strength to protect the weak. As far as I'm concerned, with him dead, let the better parts of his philosophy ring true, and the more horrible parts go off in that corner where we don't have to look at them.

An interesting point to take into consideration may be that the Bandosian faction might actually benefit more with Bandos' death than it would have if he were alive. Now you can get people who do legitimately believe in the pursuit of glory and finding strength in conquering their enemies, but with noble purposes.

Without Bandos breathing down your neck for being a fool for believing that you can use your newfound strength to, in turn, help people; the philosophy may gain traction over time with the greater population of the world and eventually attract the attention of individuals who would act for a greater good rather than for the sake of simply starting wars.

Basically, it could mean a revolutionary change for the faction. Imagine if it appealed to people like the player, rather than headstrong brutes. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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16-Feb-2016 08:35:11 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2016 08:36:35 by Aterivus

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Aterivus said :
Lego Miester said :
...So maybe I'm not a "real" Bandosian, using that strength to protect the weak. As far as I'm concerned, with him dead, let the better parts of his philosophy ring true, and the more horrible parts go off in that corner where we don't have to look at them.

An interesting point to take into consideration may be that the Bandosian faction might actually benefit more with Bandos' death than it would have if he were alive. Now you can get people who do legitimately believe in the pursuit of glory and finding strength in conquering their enemies, but with noble purposes.

Without Bandos breathing down your neck for being a fool for believing that you can use your newfound strength to, in turn, help people; the philosophy may gain traction over time with the greater population of the world and eventually attract the attention of individuals who would act for a greater good rather than for the sake of simply starting wars.

Basically, it could mean a revolutionary change for the faction. Imagine if it appealed to people like the player, rather than headstrong brutes. Then now I can see that the future of the Bandosian faction could go in directions depending on your choices. If you chose to kill Zanik it will remain hardlinely with Bandos' ways and a part/segment of him that got out of Zanik would have most likely survived to try to reform/restore himself unless he changes. Sparing Zanik could open up a path for it to be like what you propose etc. But I'm just speculating on what could foreshadow them.

16-Feb-2016 08:38:54 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2016 08:39:18 by Padomenes

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Padomenes said :
Then now I can see that the future of the Bandosian faction could go in directions depending on your choices. If you chose to kill Zanik it will remain hardlinely with Bandos' ways and a part/segment of him that got out of Zanik would have most likely survived to try to reform/restore himself unless he changes. Sparing Zanik could open up a path for it to be like what you propose etc. But I'm just speculating on what could foreshadow them.

I was mostly thinking that the change would be gradual, and done over a long period of time rather than being gameplay-related. For gameplay purposes, it'll likely remain what it is now. But in decades, perhaps even centuries, it could form into something new and something truly wonderful.

Or at least, it would be changed enough when there's more followers with the players' mindset than there would be those with the stereotypical violent-brute mindset. But it would take some time and likely be done off-screen. " All great changes are preceded by chaos. "

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16-Feb-2016 08:43:58

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Damn this dialogue sounds amazing. Love the depth it goes into, instead of typical followers of Bandos and their views on the philosophy.
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