RuneScape Forum Archive | Viable place for Soul Altar?

Ancient Drew

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Rensler said :
Here's some ignorance for a question, but what rune altars did V make or did he have any involvement in the soul altar? Air: Not sure really. It used to be south of Falador in 2007 before being moved near Varrock, just east of the Barbarian Village.

Water: Again, not sure. I don't think he got as far as Lumbridge Swamp, and the Wizards' Tower would have heard about it.

Earth: It happens to be near the site of Senntisten. Not being narcissistic or anything but the Zarosians may or may not have built it if not V.

Fire: As the Fremennik enjoy fighting for sport and this Altar is near the Duel Arena, it is a possibility that he built this one. But did he really go as far as Al Kharid?

Cosmic: Another possibility, as he founded the Lunar Clan.

Astral: Definitely.

Death: The Hefin are likely to have built this one. V wouldn't have been able to penetrate the barrier around Tirannwn or the Temple of Light.

Blood: This one may have been the primary source of power for the Saradominists in Hallowvale, so I doubt it.

Body: Another possibility. The barbarians settled very close by, and if this group were V's, they may have got cold feet and decided to destroy this one before settling.

Chaos: Now this is quite interesting. The Zamorakians might have tapped into this one and got their doctrine of chaos from here.

Ourania: I doubt it.

Mind: Possible.

Law: Saradomin is more likely to have built this one.

Nature: Another interesting one, not too sure though.

Soul: More information is needed for this one. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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23-Mar-2016 07:06:33

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Lord Drakan

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I was originally a huge proponent of the soul altar being at the bottom of the Elemental Workshop (V7 and his cohorts would have been able to access it long before Vitruvius built his workshop) as it makes sense thematically and would give non-puzzle lovers a reason to play the series. However, I found a statement by Mod Dylan in the EW3 (or *W4?) game update FAQ stating that he did not plan for the soul altar to be involved with the series, so I no longer support this.

The Grim Underworld would make some sort of thematic sense but it wouldn't fit with the lore at all, therefore I'd have to go with Menaphos, or at least some place in the desert. After all, the Desert series is a major quest series that hasn't got a rune altar yet. Bizarre Boron Fusswell, scryer extraordinaire. OSRS: POH ideas & RS3 minigames & achievement ideas !

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23-Mar-2016 08:27:08

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Mopedi

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The Spirit Plane is also a good place for the soul altar

Talking to the gnome that does charm sprites, the spirit plane is full of spiritual energy.

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23-Mar-2016 10:17:26

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sir eos lee said :
Hguoh said :
sir eos lee said :
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According to the Battered book, the elemental ore was discovered early in the 5th age, and the workshop consequently erected. As the other altars appear to have been built in the 2nd and 3rd ages (being able to get to Hallowvale/Morytania to set up the blood altar and being able to set up the death altar before the Temple of Light was built and sealed), the Soul altar could have easily been built underground (the Ourania, blood, and death altars all were), and the workshop eventually built above it.

But yes, the number of quests before getting to the altar would be substantial.

Quite true Hgough.
The same argument would be made for the road to Menaphos.
You have maybe 2 grand master quests in teh desert storyline, and they would need to invest time in creating the city.
Then we'd get the RC altar.

It doesn't have to be the final in any means. Blood was discovered during Seergaze and Death was discovered in MEP2. Those were far from the finals. The next main series Desert Quest could easily give the Soul Altar. And it doesn't have to be a Grandmaster quest.

Blood was the 4th or 5th quest in Myreque series.
Death was the 6th or 7th quest in the Elf Series.

We currently have 11 quests in the desert, but not all of them are linked. And they are all extremely easy now.

And then we have the Elemental Work Shop that currently has 4 quests. And you would need about the same amount. Elemental Work Shop being a bit more difficult for those who can't handle puzzles. Come the Sixth-Age, the world will need the World Guardian.

23-Mar-2016 15:03:47 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 15:09:15 by Iceman3317

Balustan

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Ancient Drew said :
Rensler said :
Here's some ignorance for a question, but what rune altars did V make or did he have any involvement in the soul altar? Air: Not sure really. It used to be south of Falador in 2007 before being moved near Varrock, just east of the Barbarian Village.

Water: Again, not sure. I don't think he got as far as Lumbridge Swamp, and the Wizards' Tower would have heard about it.

Earth: It happens to be near the site of Senntisten. Not being narcissistic or anything but the Zarosians may or may not have built it if not V.

Fire: As the Fremennik enjoy fighting for sport and this Altar is near the Duel Arena, it is a possibility that he built this one. But did he really go as far as Al Kharid?

Cosmic: Another possibility, as he founded the Lunar Clan.

Astral: Definitely.

Death: The Hefin are likely to have built this one. V wouldn't have been able to penetrate the barrier around Tirannwn or the Temple of Light.

Blood: This one may have been the primary source of power for the Saradominists in Hallowvale, so I doubt it.

Body: Another possibility. The barbarians settled very close by, and if this group were V's, they may have got cold feet and decided to destroy this one before settling.

Chaos: Now this is quite interesting. The Zamorakians might have tapped into this one and got their doctrine of chaos from here.

Ourania: I doubt it.

Mind: Possible.

Law: Saradomin is more likely to have built this one.

Nature: Another interesting one, not too sure though.

Soul: More information is needed for this one.

The moon clan definitely made the Ourania Altar. There is dialogue on it.

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23-Mar-2016 16:30:34

Hguoh

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The moon clan made all of the altars.

As for the altars V personally made, the blood and death altars are almost certainly his work as their locations largely became inaccessible to humans during and after the 3rd age (aka: they were made in the 2nd age which is when he was around).

Considering Forinthry was under Zarosian and then Zamorakian control during the time V was on Gielinor, the chaos altar was almost certainly not built until after V had left Gielinor (neither faction was really kind to strangers in their land).

Equally so, the earth, air, and body altars likely weren't built by V due to being close to or within the Zarosian empire (making the locations largely inaccessible in the 2nd age and war zones in the 3rd).

The fire altar is a bit iffy. It's possible that V built the altar in the second age prior to the Zarosian-Kharidian war, but he almost certainly couldn't have built it later in the 2nd age or 3rd age (Kharidian-Zarosian war and then God Wars).

All the rest of the altars are sort of a toss up. But considering V was almost certainly involved in the creation of the blood altar, it's quite possible that he did help create the rest.

23-Mar-2016 21:45:50 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2016 21:46:26 by Hguoh

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Mopedi

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^

That's only a rumor. We don't know if V really did make all the altars. There are people among the moonclan and Fremmenik that doubt this.

Hero's Welcome dialogue:
Freya Lune: V is the patron of the Moon Clan and one of our greatest heroes. He discovered the art of binding energy into rune stones, constructed the Astral altar and taught us many spells. There are some scholars who think he may have made all the altars, but I am not one of them.

Alfrick the Planner: V is one of the greatest heroes the Fremennik have ever produced! He did set up some of the rune altars and teach the Moon Clan some tricks...but I guess we're all trying to get along so that can be overlooked.

My headcanon theory is that some of the Mahjarrat or other powerful races made the other altars, like the blood and death, since the moonclan were only interested in simpler spells like water and air spells at the time. A jmod would also said that V would have to have access to a portal to be able to get to the enclosed Death altar location or something.

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23-Mar-2016 23:47:57

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The ideal place in my opinion would be near Menaphos: an altar buried under sand dunes, access to which would be a side reward from the desert storyline quests. Join the RuneScape community on Reddit in

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23-Mar-2016 23:48:06

Balustan

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Mopedi said :
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That's only a rumor. We don't know if V really did make all the altars. There are people among the moonclan and Fremmenik that doubt this.

Hero's Welcome dialogue:
Freya Lune: V is the patron of the Moon Clan and one of our greatest heroes. He discovered the art of binding energy into rune stones, constructed the Astral altar and taught us many spells. There are some scholars who think he may have made all the altars, but I am not one of them.

Alfrick the Planner: V is one of the greatest heroes the Fremennik have ever produced! He did set up some of the rune altars and teach the Moon Clan some tricks...but I guess we're all trying to get along so that can be overlooked.

My headcanon theory is that some of the Mahjarrat or other powerful races made the other altars, like the blood and death, since the moonclan were only interested in simpler spells like water and air spells at the time. A jmod would also said that V would have to have access to a portal to be able to get to the enclosed Death altar location or something.

My issue with V______ not having made them all is there is a good reason he and he alone made them in the lore. He touched the Stone of Jas the source of runes. It doesn't just require power. His mind was unlocked. Honestly I think they've made huge mistakes with V______ as a character but they should make him have made all the altars during his "lifelong" search for the Stone after it was taken from him.

Place him very early second age and he can get to the Death Altar before the Temple is built.

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24-Mar-2016 01:44:16

Rondstat

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I always thought the Soul Altar HAD to play a critical role in the Elemental Workshop finale. Clearly, all the failed attempts at restoring the apprentice's soul were leading up to the use of soul energy. This doesn't necessarily mean the Moonclan-created soul altar is at the bottom of the workshop itself. There may be a portal to its location, or perhaps there's some weak and temperamental Ourania-style soul-optimized altar (that doesn't draw on the presence of a rift).

My biggest hope is that, when Jagex finally introduces the Soul Altar, they use it with significance , something on par with the central story relevance of the death altar. Given runecrafting's place in Gielinor's history, and how integral it is, not only to the fictional multiverse, but to Rune scape's skill hierarchy, the locations of the remaining altar(s) should be a carefully weighted decision. There's only soul, and [possibly] life altars left.

What does soul energy mean? What is the secondary function of the altar? How does it relate to existing runic energies? What location provides a suitable locus of anima? What would this place have looked like as a rift, before the construction of the altar? What effect did it have on the environment? Who would have used soul energy, and how? These are all questions I wish the devs to consider.

24-Mar-2016 03:26:05

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