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sir eos lee

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At the end of the world, literally speaking.
Use a combination of enchanted key and what not, we fast forward in time to the last moments of Gilienor.
There we are met by Death/The Grim Reaper.

All the creatures slain.
All the lives trapped in Limbo that couldn't be ushered to an afterlife.
All the slain gods.

Here, Harold marks his final duty.

As their are no more souls to ferry. No more lives to end. It is just him. To stand a lonely solitary vigil over the Soul Altar. The only thing left on the world relating to souls.
Sure he finds little things to pass the time.

But he is glad to see you ... well ... anyone for that matter.
He lets you use the Soul Altar to make runes.

If the Soul Altar can get drained of energy, then his last duty would be complete. No more souls on Gilienor, and he too can finally pass on.

The far into the future Harold (Assuming that reaper is still Harold) isn't too concerned about the Soul Rune energy making it back into the past.
Partially because all the soul energy will inevitability be used, and probably come back there.
Plus the whole living alone till forever can add an even deeper shade of grey to an already grey morality.

22-Mar-2016 02:39:10

YtHaar-Zuk
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sir eos lee said :
At the end of the world, literally speaking.
Use a combination of enchanted key and what not, we fast forward in time to the last moments of Gilienor.
There we are met by Death/The Grim Reaper.

All the creatures slain.
All the lives trapped in Limbo that couldn't be ushered to an afterlife.
All the slain gods.

Here, Harold marks his final duty.

As their are no more souls to ferry. No more lives to end. It is just him. To stand a lonely solitary vigil over the Soul Altar. The only thing left on the world relating to souls.
Sure he finds little things to pass the time.

But he is glad to see you ... well ... anyone for that matter.
He lets you use the Soul Altar to make runes.

If the Soul Altar can get drained of energy, then his last duty would be complete. No more souls on Gilienor, and he too can finally pass on.

The far into the future Harold (Assuming that reaper is still Harold) isn't too concerned about the Soul Rune energy making it back into the past.
Partially because all the soul energy will inevitability be used, and probably come back there.
Plus the whole living alone till forever can add an even deeper shade of grey to an already grey morality.


I really really like this, that would be an amazing way on how you access the altar and where its located and how its in the future.
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22-Mar-2016 07:57:28

Iceman3317
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Desert/Meaphos, main reason is because the Egyption culture in the past and in game are all obsessed with souls. Even the Genie like soles, but the 'souls' of shoes.

I wouldn't mind it being in the Elemental Workshop, but that is so very far away. We still have at least 3 quests before the soul altar gets involved.

The next quest in EW is Nature and Astral. From there it will be Law and Death and then Blood and Soul if they continue the 2 runes per quest. Come the Sixth-Age, the world will need the World Guardian.

22-Mar-2016 12:26:10

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22-Mar-2016 13:58:26

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Cthris said :
My issue with Elemental Workshop is that it's kind of cheesy that the super duper runic workshop just so happens to be built right on top of this altar. Like what are the odds :P

Why do you pose it like it was coincidence? Mayhaps the entire reason the elemental ore is even there is because of the proximity of such a powerful, unbroken altar.

22-Mar-2016 14:13:26

sir eos lee

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The problem with the EW series is that it keeps losing in head-to-head votes.

Yes, there is a broad amount of community support for the series. But it isn't a highly popular series.

The only way the series would get concluded is if the devs unilaterally decided to move forward with it, and not poll it.
Sort of like what they did with the Myreque finale.
They did poll Lord of Vampyrium, then opted to go ahead and finish the series since it was so well received and they only had 1 chapter left to do.

EW series is a bit of a bigger problem.
Each quest can range from small to almost large in terms of a development project.
They could inch along again, doing only 1 runic theme per quest, and even do a few of the runes with far more simplistic puzzles (ending up with something closer to a poh construction hotspot instead of a massive puzzle). This would allow them to quickly work on each step, but it would take a long long time before we got to the end.
Alternatively, they could do several themes in 2 quests. With something along the lines of a 1/2 puzzle, 1 simple puzzle, and 1 medium puzzle.

but in the end, the only reason why a Soul Altar would fit is because we know that the Soul Rune is the last in an already existing theme.
But the other problem, WHY would the Soul Altar be there when it should have already existed at the same time as the other RC altars?
It is highly unlikely that the character who built the workshop would have built a runecrafting altar.

22-Mar-2016 14:50:39

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sir eos lee said :
But the other problem, WHY would the Soul Altar be there when it should have already existed at the same time as the other RC altars?
It is highly unlikely that the character who built the workshop would have built a runecrafting altar.

According to the Battered book, the elemental ore was discovered early in the 5th age, and the workshop consequently erected. As the other altars appear to have been built in the 2nd and 3rd ages (being able to get to and through Hallowvale/Morytania to set up the blood altar and being able to set up the death altar before the Temple of Light was built and sealed), the Soul altar could have easily been built underground (the Ourania, blood, and death altars all were), and the workshop eventually built above it.

But yes, the number of quests before getting to the altar would be substantial.

22-Mar-2016 15:00:55 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 15:07:04 by Hguoh

sir eos lee

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Other likely locations:

Wilderness.
The region was once full of life, then it all died in a flash.
Even to this day, the area is a constant battlefield.
In some location, the Soul Altar exists, but is hidden away.
Perhaps the Lunar Clan had hidden it at the old Wilderness volcano/crater.
If you look around, there is a really nasty side effect of where Guthix plunged his Sword of Edicts.
But why did Guthix choose to plant his sword THERE?
In fact, why did it seem to be a battle or gathering there?
Maybe multiple factions discovered where the Lunar Clan kept their Soul Altar and had a battle over it. The armies had the misfortune of being at that place, at that time, when Guthix was in a really foul mood. In an effort to end a major battle, and drive his point home, AND remove a point of unbalance in the world, Guthix used the Soul RC Altar lay down his law. The impact of the sword on a well of runic power was enough to flash the existing armies to dust, as well as start empowering his protective barrier/edicts.
Plus it would add 1 more piece of content to the Wilderness.


Fossil/Kudos Island
We've now seen the original concept for the idea.
Hiding it behind the Varrock Museum would be weird, but there are a few quests and content on RC that build up kudos.
Plus it would give 1 more reason to help release that long standing idea/teaser.


Feldip Hills
A little bit out of left field.
I couldn't even begin to give you a good reason why it would be out there, other than it's one area that doesn't have an RC altar.
With the Ogres out there, no one would have probably noticed a RC altar out there or known that it had gone missing. Especially if a Frem group from the RC crusade destroyed the outer temple.
It's probable that after the Bandosians moved in, and the crusade, even the Lunar Clan simply forgot the thing was out there.

22-Mar-2016 15:04:52 - Last edited on 22-Mar-2016 15:09:55 by sir eos lee

sir eos lee

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Hguoh said :
sir eos lee said :
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According to the Battered book, the elemental ore was discovered early in the 5th age, and the workshop consequently erected. As the other altars appear to have been built in the 2nd and 3rd ages (being able to get to Hallowvale/Morytania to set up the blood altar and being able to set up the death altar before the Temple of Light was built and sealed), the Soul altar could have easily been built underground (the Ourania, blood, and death altars all were), and the workshop eventually built above it.

But yes, the number of quests before getting to the altar would be substantial.

Quite true Hgough.
The same argument would be made for the road to Menaphos.
You have maybe 2 grand master quests in teh desert storyline, and they would need to invest time in creating the city.
Then we'd get the RC altar.

22-Mar-2016 15:08:44

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