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Raleirosen

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Hazeel said :
But let's say the Naragun calandar had...oh...90 days. It wouldn't be so green and lush for starters. You could make an argument that the Auspah planet, Infernus, or "Zamorak's Planet" (where Moia found him) have a significantly shorter calander because that the fiery atmosphere reflects that. I don't think we have reason to believe that the RuneScape universe incorporates that much astronomy. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

28-Jan-2017 18:48:54

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Padomenes said :
snip Because Tuska's strong enough to open a portal enough for her "followers" to get through Saradomin should've been as well. If he couldn't...why did he think he had a chance to begin with?

Tuska can do damage to the anima only if she has her way with the planet...which she did not as she was driven off before she could do that.

No, I am saying that Saradomin had killed 99.99% of the Naragi before he was driven off by Tuska.
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28-Jan-2017 22:00:20

Wahisietel
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For all we know a Naragi year isn't considered to be Naragun's rotation around the sun.

Keep in mind that Aagi was a child for the entirety of the war. Most races in the game seem to have childhood lengths roughly equivalent to that of humans. Even those that aren't, like elves and ice sprites, still mature long before making it to "centuries". At the very most, the war lasted around 100 years. I'd personally go with around 10-20. The majority of what happened to Naragun can probably be ascribed to Tuska, who probably wouldn't need very long to do so, especially when combined with the crossfire between the other gods. You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

28-Jan-2017 22:14:26 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2017 22:14:37 by Wahisietel

Aeldari

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Giras said :
No, I am saying that Saradomin had killed 99.99% of the Naragi before he was driven off by Tuska.

Where are you getting this information may I ask? As far as I can tell this statement goes against everything we have learned. We have been told that the destruction on Naragun was in fact, due to a war between multiple gods.
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28-Jan-2017 23:01:14

Lego Miester
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Hazeel said :


There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest that any of them joined him.

Examine the temple with his symbol on it.

This looks to be the remains of a ruined temple. Some of Guthix's race must have begun to worship the gods who came to this world, creating shrines and temples become becoming caught up in the war that destroyed them.


There's also this examine of the naragi scattered about:

It seems strange that the dead are not warriors. As the gods' battles became more fervant, innocent citizens must have become accidental casualties , eventually wiping out Guthix's race altogether.


Ergo Saradomin battled the other gods and the refugees got caught in the middle. (And, inferred on my part, considering we don't see any naragi in Saradomin's modern followers, he attempted to get them to fight in his armies when he was losing and desperately low on troops, not unlike late in the god wars where his emissaries went to farming towns to recruit) Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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28-Jan-2017 23:24:01 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2017 23:34:11 by Lego Miester

Hazeel

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Raleirosen said :
I don't think we have reason to believe that the RuneScape universe incorporates that much astronomy.

Obviously RS isn't going to adhere to every obscure physics rule, and magic can explain away a lot of things, but it still follows basic rules...stuff like gravity keeping us grounded and temperatue getting warmer as you move close to a star seems pretty simple IMO. XD

Wahisietel said :
At the very most, the war lasted around 100 years

At the very least . There's no way a God War was resolved sooner than that. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Jan-2017 23:27:04

Lego Miester
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Hazeel said :

And then there's those who he hunted down. Even the refugee camps weren't safe. Whether you prefer to believe he enslaved the refuees or killed them is up to you, but they weren't left alone. This is why Guthix didn't send Aagi to one, they were running out.
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So to the implied question "why were the refugee camps feeling threatened if Saradomin was not personally hunting them down?"

-they were trying to avoid the war zone and Saradomin's territory. As Saradomin's claim grew, there were less places to go.
-Saradomin likely seized farmland and other resources within the territory, leaving scarcity and requiring either abandoning camps or dangerous treks into the fray to get food and materials.
-once Tuska got there, those guys killed and pillaged indiscriminately. Headcanon Haven, where everything is made up and the points don't matter.
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28-Jan-2017 23:41:19

Hazeel

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Lego Miester said :
Examine the temple with his symbol on it.

This looks to be the remains of a ruined temple. Some of Guthix's race must have begun to worship the gods who came to this world, creating shrines and temples become becoming caught up in the war that destroyed them.


There's also this examine of the naragi scattered about:

It seems strange that the dead are not warriors. As the gods' battles became more fervant, innocent citizens must have become accidental casualties , eventually wiping out Guthix's race altogether.


Completely uneducated guesses from the WG before they were given the history. It would make sense to assume such. After learning the history, however, this clearly isn't true...the war strated before Saradomin could begin recruiting--if he ever did--and we know he took their cities, destroyed them, and rebuilt his own in their place. Looking at Senntisten, he seems to have a habit of doing this.

EDIT: Not to go offtopic, but does anyone else thing it's weird that Zamorak chose to take over Senntisten while Saradomin decided to destroy it completely and rebuild something else in its place? Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Jan-2017 23:46:08 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2017 23:48:16 by Hazeel

Aeldari

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Lego Miester said :
Hazeel said :

And then there's those who he hunted down. Even the refugee camps weren't safe. Whether you prefer to believe he enslaved the refuees or killed them is up to you, but they weren't left alone. This is why Guthix didn't send Aagi to one, they were running out.
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So to the implied question "why were the refugee camps feeling threatened if Saradomin was not personally hunting them down?"

-they were trying to avoid the war zone and Saradomin's territory. As Saradomin's claim grew, there were less places to go.
-Saradomin likely seized farmland and other resources within the territory, leaving scarcity and requiring either abandoning camps or dangerous treks into the fray to get food and materials.
-once Tuska got there, those guys killed and pillaged indiscriminately. This scenario seems in line with my thoughts on what happened as well.
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28-Jan-2017 23:47:31

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