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Autumn Elite

Autumn Elite

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I think this one is probably the most interesting, I don't think that the V questline and Saradomin questline should merge in together so early on (although maybe some interaction would be interesting!).


That's my preferred approach too. Assuming Saradomin's weakness comes up in Owen's questline at all (it may be pursued in Dragonkin sequels, or not at all). Will have to see what the future holds!

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If you do pursue a sequel to Death of Chivlary (from a more Saradominist/Owen perspective) do you have any ideas for the main setting (eg. kingdom, city etc?)
... Perhaps reworked Fally (hint hint) ;)


That really depends on the state of Gielinor at the time the project's in production. I'd be looking to find ways to re-use environments to reduce the development cost.

If there are parts of reworked Falador that make good setpieces for what I need to do, then great, I'd use 'em.

If, say, New Domina has become accessible and a seat of power has been established for Saradomin there (not saying it will), then it'd be prime real estate for certain chapters of the quest. (The World Gate's connection to Fate of the Gods may pose a requirement problem, but there's ways around that - flashbacks, cutaways, PoV scenes, etc)

If a second God Wars dungeon or GW expansion content has recently been released, then maybe that'd be a good place to exploit as a setting for further reveals (connections to Bree and the architectural links between the Temple of Lost Ancients and the Tomb of the Fallen).

Or I could get more mileage out of the Black Knights' Fortress. Or do a OoaK-esque globe-trotting quest that travels to various (low-level) parts of the known world. Or take it off-world to the Enchanted Valley or Teragard or the unicorn home world. Or the underworld.

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07-Jul-2015 12:57:37

Autumn Elite

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Or bring in additional antagonists, such as Lens**'s coven, Lord Daquarius, political shenanigans between the White and Temple Knights, necrotaurs, legions of the undead, avatars of corruption and purity, rainbow robot unicorns, or worse. Much worse.

Or if it's decided we just want a quick sequel quest to put Owen on par with Ozan and Ariane to conclude his plotline, and to keep Saradomin ring-fenced for other content, that's fine too.

I have various pitches ready depending on the project aims and what tools are at my disposal when the time comes. :)


Interesting to know that the plans are a little flexible so hopefully they can address any player feedback in this.

07-Jul-2015 13:06:16

Autumn Elite

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1. I can only speculate on your first point - I didn't work on Hero's Welcome at all, so I'm not sure why Mod Osborne or Wilson chose these skill requirements.

Certainly we've been listening to feedback that there was too much focus on Novice and Grandmaster for a time, and I'm sure that was taken into account in the difficulty classification of Dishonour Among Thieves and Hero's Welcome.

I do know that the difficulty classification rules list certain skills as being easier or harder to level than others, and that this is reflected in the range of levels appropriate for that skill's quest difficulty. So it's not quite as simple as like-for-like skill level comparison.

2. Again, that's not information I have access to. Quests and other projects for next year are being planned, but it's not yet filtered down to us devs. I'm looking forward to RuneFest, when we'll hopefully get to find out what we'll be working on in the new year.

I'm sure it's being taken into account that some gods have had more screentime than others. I'm therefore not expecting DoC2 any time soon, since that gave Saradomin some time in the spotlight.

I'd imagine quest polls and RuneLabs popularity is helping to influence the priority of certain quests, though, so keep supporting your favourites, and hopefully that'll help boost their priority.


Questions addressing skill requirements and quest schedule.

07-Jul-2015 13:16:15

Autumn Elite

Autumn Elite

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3. That the World Gate is behind Fate of the Gods hasn't proved to be an issue so far...generally, stories that require travelling to other planets are going to be in the top-end of the narrative where the Gielinor plot nodes have been exhausted.

But as noted above, there are ways to feature other worlds in lower-level content without having to travel through the World Gate, should we need to. Not to mention fairy rings and other permanent or temporary mechanisms. Heck, astromancy just recently brought us RuneScape in space! And then we have Mazcab on the way.

As for decoupling the World Gate to only require Desert Treasure, that's not much help to lower-level quests, as Desert Treasure is a Master quest.

I should also emphasise that there isn't (to my knowledge) a planned future quest set on New Domina. I only mentioned that because it's a player suggestion I saw and I liked the sound of it. :) I'd imagine we'd probably address other worlds that have been eagerly anticipated before building the Icyene home world. Probably.


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07-Jul-2015 13:19:56

Hexie Kazumi
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Hexie Kazumi

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Thanks for this thread. I like to see all perspectives on a topic. I am not fan of Saradomin just the same as I am not crazy about Zamorak. However, it is good to get some perspective.

That said- I agree that wrath is a dangerous vice. Also, he does have an ego and such.

It is good to see some of his positive traits. I asked players before what his pluses are and they never answered. Also, now I know he isn't genocidal. But he still has shown little improvement in his actions , even if, in his words and mind he wants to change..

28-Nov-2015 23:53:37

William Witt
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William Witt

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So I'm alive, sort of, and finally did Hero's Welcome a week or two ago - and The Light Within just this weekend, in NXT. I've finally been able to take a look at your posts, Autumn Elite, which I was avoiding earlier because of spoilers. Pretty nice - Thanks for collecting these. :) Not sure if I'll add any of them to the first page of the thread yet, though, but I am happy about them.
The Asgarnian ale must flow.

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