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Lego Miester
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Nerevarine x said :

Nakigi believes both Saradomin and the Naragi were responsible for the war. Who holds greater responsibility isn't specified. It may very well be that Saradomin was mostly accountable, but Nakigi and his followers have good reasons to think their own race shared liability for the war.


It could be as massive as them attacking Saradomin and trying to force him back through the portal and close it, or as simple as them not realizing his power, and belittling him.
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Hard to say, since they clearly left this hole on purpose. If they ever fill it, we can expect the usual. Stuff you can rationalize out, that I look at and think Saradomin is acting like a bully with an ego the size of the sun.
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24-Dec-2013 09:52:05 - Last edited on 24-Dec-2013 09:56:49 by Lego Miester

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Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.
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25-Dec-2013 09:57:48

Lego Miester
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Solanumtinkr said :
Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.


Well Saradomin isn't known for being just a scumbag, more that he sees everything through a lens of self-righteousness.

Saradomin thinks that he is benevolent. When we're theorizing his actions, we need to keep that in mind.

Ex: Saradomin kicks a puppy.

theoretical justification: That puppy was chewing on his ankle.

Overly apologetic justification: That puppy was a Zamorakian agent, sent to assassinate him.
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25-Dec-2013 20:58:52 - Last edited on 25-Dec-2013 21:00:47 by Lego Miester

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Lego Miester said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.


Well Saradomin isn't known for being just a scumbag, more that he sees everything through a lens of self-righteousness.

Saradomin thinks that he is benevolent. When we're theorizing his actions, we need to keep that in mind.

Ex: Saradomin kicks a puppy.

theoretical justification: That puppy was chewing on his ankle.

Overly apologetic justification: That puppy was a Zamorakian agent, sent to assassinate him.


You're wrong, Azzy is a puppy.

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7. Azzanadra. Fanatical devotion has never been so easy to emphasize with. He's like a puppy, and ridiculously powerful, shape-shifting, soul destroying puppy.

That is the best description of Azzy I've ever seen. Just how he stands in front of his master's portal, it's much like how a puppy eagerly awaits the return of it's owner as it sits staring longingly out the window...

Let's just hope he doesn't pee himself in excitement when Zaros returns.

25-Dec-2013 21:13:35 - Last edited on 25-Dec-2013 21:14:00 by Velia

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Velia said :
Lego Miester said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.


Well Saradomin isn't known for being just a scumbag, more that he sees everything through a lens of self-righteousness.

Saradomin thinks that he is benevolent. When we're theorizing his actions, we need to keep that in mind.

Ex: Saradomin kicks a puppy.

theoretical justification: That puppy was chewing on his ankle.

Overly apologetic justification: That puppy was a Zamorakian agent, sent to assassinate him.


You're wrong, Azzy is a puppy.

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7. Azzanadra. Fanatical devotion has never been so easy to emphasize with. He's like a puppy, and ridiculously powerful, shape-shifting, soul destroying puppy.

That is the best description of Azzy I've ever seen. Just how he stands in front of his master's portal, it's much like how a puppy eagerly awaits the return of it's owner as it sits staring longingly out the window...

Let's just hope he doesn't pee himself in excitement when Zaros returns.

atleast azzy is level headed and not KILL EVERYTHING IN THE NAME OF
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25-Dec-2013 21:15:44

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Lego Miester said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.


Well Saradomin isn't known for being just a scumbag, more that he sees everything through a lens of self-righteousness.

Saradomin thinks that he is benevolent. When we're theorizing his actions, we need to keep that in mind.

Ex: Saradomin kicks a puppy.

theoretical justification: That puppy was chewing on his ankle.

Overly apologetic justification: That puppy was a Zamorakian agent, sent to assassinate him.

I'm not singling anyone out in particular for being the attacker with that statement, just that people can and do blame the victim, even if unconsciously at times. As if it might be contagious. It's not logical, but feelings never are. Don't focus on the attacker part of that statement, instead realise that it is unwise to attack the victim in attempt to assign the blame to them instead.
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25-Dec-2013 21:17:10 - Last edited on 25-Dec-2013 21:20:50 by Solanumtinkr

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Solanumtinkr said :
Lego Miester said :
Solanumtinkr said :
Some people blame the victim of a violent attack instead of the attacker. Sometimes never out loud but in the attitude they direct toward the victim. An attitude of 'well, something bad happened to them so they must have deserved it. . . " O_o

Sometimes a victim is just a victim and the attacker is just a scumbag and not some kind of divine retribution.


Well Saradomin isn't known for being just a scumbag, more that he sees everything through a lens of self-righteousness.

Saradomin thinks that he is benevolent. When we're theorizing his actions, we need to keep that in mind.

Ex: Saradomin kicks a puppy.

theoretical justification: That puppy was chewing on his ankle.

Overly apologetic justification: That puppy was a Zamorakian agent, sent to assassinate him.

I'm not singling anyone out in particular for being the attacker with that statement, just that people can and do blame the victim, even if unconsciously at times. As if it might be contagious. It's not logical, but feelings never are. Don't focus on the attacker part of that statement, instead realise that it is unwise to attack the victim in attempt to assign the blame to them instead.


I can understand where you are coming from

For example sometimes when people get mugged, others are like, why were you walking around so late at night in dark alley ways.

Or

Lots of times when people get their runescape account hacked people will say, "you should have made your account safer" " its your own fault for giving people your p word"

26-Dec-2013 18:04:09 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2013 18:05:03 by Cthris

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^ Both of those statements are true though.

Yes, we *should* be able to walk around in dark alleyways at night, and we *should* be able to play Runescape without our accounts being hijacked.

But...that is not reality.


If you get mugged it's primarily your attacker's fault, but make no mistake - walking in dark alleyways at night certainly increases your risk and makes you a potential target, therefore some of the blame can be attributed to your own ignorance.

As for account hijacking, both the person involved in stealing it and the individual who owns the account are liable. If you are too stupid to protect yourself with a strong pass word and Jagex Account Guardian then you are asking to be a target.

Especially for giving people your pass word, you can hardly expect not to have your account hijacked when you do that.

I'm not taking the blame away from the perpetrators, but victims do hold a lot of responsibility in preventing what happens to them.

27-Dec-2013 05:28:17 - Last edited on 27-Dec-2013 05:28:29 by Nerevarine x

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