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Siegfreid
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Hazeel said :
Saradomin didn't need to do anything to defend Lumbridge...but it would have been nice if he didn't personally attack it. He could have easily moved before setting up camp. But nope. While Zamorak set up his in the middle of nowhere where nobody was hurt, Saradomin endangered his followers to set up his camp.

It's sad that Zamorak treats Saradominists better than Saradomin does. =P


Sure, it's not like he was in the middle of a battle and set up his camp on an area the explosion had already cleared after Zamorak decided to blast him with a stream of magical energy that he was forced to counter with his own, causing the explosion.

Not sure if you realize this or not, but it's not like he and Zamorak were playing an RTS where you get 5 minutes to pick and choose where you build your stuff before your enemy would have built up the forces to be able to attack you. It was a fight where every second counted. Saradomin was also forced to react to Zamorak constantly escalating the battle in scope and scale. Zamorak was the first to break out the death rays and the first to start summoning his base. The position of which, I may add, had less to do with caring about civilian casualties and more to do trying to defeat/kill Saradomin.

Saradomin didn't have the luxury of being able to choose the spot of the battle or being able to choose where his base would be, and all he knew was that Zamorak was rampaging in an area full of his followers and blasting the ground with little regard for anyone who got in the way. He gave a warning shot to get Zamorak's attention, and didn't know about the Guthixian energy that reacted violently when Zamorak put even more power behind his attack. The direction Zamorak would have to face to attack Saradomin would have fewer residential buildings to hit. If anything, it seems he way trying to get Zamorak away from Lumbridge and potentially hurting his followers.
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31-Jul-2015 18:22:13 - Last edited on 31-Jul-2015 21:11:10 by Siegfreid

Heidly Ees
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Godless, because it's what Guthix wanted.

However I'm willing to let Zaros do his thing in stopping the Elders, because there's no way we have a chance of stopping them on our own. Just so long as he leaves us alone when he's done.
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31-Jul-2015 19:21:25

Derack
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Fredeus said :

This might not be much, but Saradomin did stand somewhere around the H.A.M. hideout when he threw his warning shot on Zamorak's back, perhaps in an attempt to lure Zamorak's attention towards him rather than on Lumbridge. Also, I doubt creating a shield powerful enough to cover a whole town from a god-empowered magical blast would leave no consequences on Saradomin's combat prowess. The battle started rather quickly, leaving little to no time to lay down a magical barrier and it could have stretched his power in a way so he would be weaker than Zamorak...

...yet, he did make a projection of himself mid-battle to talk with the World-Guardian during Death of Chivalry quest, at seemingly no penalty. Meh. It's complicated.

At this point, trying to justify why Saradomin didn't do more to defend Lumbridge is just speculations and headcanons. Therefore, I'm retiring from this debate.
fair enough.

about the shield, i meant if he created a shield around him self to stop zamorak's fire beam, that shouldn't have caused any damage to lumby. or used one or two hands to block the beam. now that would have looked awesome.

yeah, doc does have some plot holes... :l
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Fat N Wacky
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I follow Zaros because he is what is 100% best for the survival of the world.

I believe, in the real world and therefore correspondingly in Gielinor, that nothing can survive if the world does not survive. As a result, the world gets my highest priority. Simple enough, right? It makes sense.

Zaros is currently the only God with this same ideal (to my knowledge). He is working on keeping the Elder Gods asleep or away, at least not present, to ensure the survival of the world we all know and love. Because I am on the side of the living, and I want to live, and I want everyone else to get to live, then I follow Zaros and put my 100% trust in him and will always help him whatever he needs.

In contrast with most (in my opinion) arrogant and naive, proud and one-track-minded Zarosians, I don't care for other Gods, in the sense that I don't waste my time hating them or wanting them gone. To the contrary, I believe several of them could coexist in Zaros' world, with Zaros as the ultimate authority and ruler (obviously).

Zamorak is actually a prime example of this. His ideals are the complete opposite of Zaros' - They are about strengthening the individual. And within a world where that world is sure to survive, I see no issue (and neither does Zaros, for the record) with a leader promoting individuality and personal strength. Again, to the contrary, I at least (IDK about Zaros :P ) think it's a good thing.

Another good example is Armadyl. A stern, but fair judge who loves his people and all he wants to do is guard them and ensure their survival, I see no issue with that and no conflict between him and Zaros in Zaros' world.

Seren is similar to Armadyl, she just wants to solidify the Elves' survival.

Armadyl and Seren can exist as leaders to their people, and Zamorak as a preacher of personal strength and prowess.

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01-Aug-2015 18:43:22

Fat N Wacky
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To provide an opposing example, while he is already dead (thankfully), Bandos would've been an adversary to Zaros' world. He was all but for the destruction of the world - "He would see this country burn if he could be King of the ashes," basically.

The Godless are also a threat to Zaros' plans and that's without considering that I don't see them making any dang sense at all, but that's a whole other rant. Basically, I'm not sure that the Godless are aware of the Elder Gods and their power - If they were, I would like to believe that they would be on Zaros' side, but the way I have seen them act... I find that hard to believe. The Godless, from what I've seen, are naive, and just wish there to be no Gods, as if that's something that can be achieved. I don't see them understanding that the Elder Gods can't exactly be eliminated so dang easily, if they were even aware of them (again, to my knowledge, they aren't), and I certainly don't see them accepting another God (Zaros) as the savior of the world from the Elder Gods.

Hmm.

Another point - Obviously, the Dragonkin are a threat to Zaros' plan, because they are, as of now, aligned with Jas and the Elder Gods. It'll be interesting, however, to see how this all plays out (the story with the Elder Gods and the Dragonkin), considering that the Dragonkin obviously want to be liberated, and what they would do once they were liberated.

Can you imagine if the Dragonkin joined team Zaros?? Oh, the epicness!!

But yeah, basically, I side with Zaros because I want to fight for the side that fights for the living.

;)

Extra brownie points if you caught the two references. 8|
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01-Aug-2015 18:43:31 - Last edited on 01-Aug-2015 18:52:00 by Fat N Wacky

Fat N Wacky
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The Mather1 said :
I follow Zaros because I approve of his 100% reliance on logic. Also because I approve of the systems instituted and progress made in Senntisten, and because his followers constitute some of the most reliable and trustworthy characters in Runescape.


Also this.
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Fat N Wacky
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Beowulfe said :
As I mentioned, I can sympathize with both zaros and seren. Since they are "true" gods. Same goes for the menaphite pantheon, as they seem to be "true" gods.


Here's basically what I mean by a "true" god: They were never mortals that ascended and they have a dominion, rather than a political party. For example, Tumeken has the dominion of the sun, Jas *kinda* has dominion of time.


Actually, each of the Elder Gods are supposed to represent one "facet of time." At least that's how I have it understood.

Also, we know nothing about Icthlarin and Elidnis's backstory/backstories.
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^Arctucrus

We know enough though to make it an option. Elidinis is the god of Fertility in Growth, who will get angry if you don't worship her. Rewards you with resources if you swear oath to her :P

Icthlarin is the Shepard of the dead and does not really have a belief. Just a job he does alot
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02-Aug-2015 05:42:08

Roland Lyons
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I follow Saradomin because I follow Team America: World Police logic. There are three kinds of people in this world. *****, *******, and ********.

******* think everyone can get along, and ***** just want to **** all the time without thinking it through. But then you've got your ********, and all the ******** want to do is just to **** all over everything.

So ******* may get mad at ***** once in a while, because ******* get ****** by *****(IE, Naragun, Senntisten). But ***** also **** ********(Zamorak's defeat at BoL, near defeat after the god wars). And you know what you'd get if ***** didn't **** the ********? You'd get your **** and your ***** all covered in ****.

This my friends, is the wisdom of Saradomin. And why I'm proud to call myself a ****.

If I get a temp ban for this post, then I regret nothing.
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