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An Aviansie
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Armadyl, but I can sympathize with Seren, Saradomin, and Zaros.

His views most closely represent my real world views, plus I want to do the right thing and keep people safe. While I would still rather reason with people than destroy them, I would stand in and fight if absolutely needed (although I would refuse to kill if I could).

War is a terrible thing, so Bandos is out. I also rejected Zamorak's lies about progression, when it's obvious that his methods are extreme and only cause needless loss of lives. Even if it did work, it still wouldn't be worth the massive amount of lives destroyed. V was terribly violent and dangerous for someone who claimed to be honorable; he had no problem with killing his own teammates once they've served their purpose. As for Guthix, he's the only one who clearly did have noble intentions, however flawed; a completely hands-off approach leads to suffering and death (as seen in Meeting History, when the family struggled to survive).

Please note that I'm not trying to be too critical of the gods I don't sympathize with; I'm just providing reasons as to why I don't follow the other gods in any sense. Except Zamorak. I will never accept him as he is now.
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28-Jul-2015 10:01:04

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Melanion said :
I follow Armadyl because he has a good philosophy.

Unlike Seren he does not want to hide in a hole and let the world crash, he wants to fight for a better world where everyone, gods and mortals, can live in peace and struggle through the daily trials. Plus he's pretty nice in person as well.

Also he doesn't want to rule and be the "one god" like Saradomin, he wants to be a guide for his followers.


Saradomin does not want to be the only god that remains on Gielinor. He wants to act as a sheriff to its followers and become like a sort of world police dominant faction on Gielinor keeping the world order. He will leave you alone as long as he and his faction are not provoked/directly threatened. Will only attack those he sees as a threat in order to create/maintain world order.

For example in terms of I.R.L also, world policing has been successful for decades - nearly over a century in preventing threats and keeping the world at peace such as in the defeat of Libya's regime through military intervention, elimination of a threat to world peace through invading Iraq. Imagine a Gielinorian/Runescape counterpart/equivalent of that except called Saradominists/Saradomin to keep the world order by eliminating threats.

You need an active "world police" that keeps world order which results in peace as well. It would also be quite fun to play as it besides. Can't wait to see it done to Drakan and occupied Hallowvale.

28-Jul-2015 12:03:37 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2015 12:20:44 by Padomenes

The Mather1
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Except you know it only tends to muck things up when the US tries to act on its self-appointed title of "World Police" without the UN backing it. And it never acts anywhere that needs it (Africa), only places where it can gain publicity or favors (middle east).
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28-Jul-2015 16:25:44 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2015 16:28:04 by The Mather1

Tempra
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An Aviansie said :
Armadyl, but I can sympathize with Seren, Saradomin, and Zaros.

His views most closely represent my real world views, plus I want to do the right thing and keep people safe. While I would still rather reason with people than destroy them, I would stand in and fight if absolutely needed (although I would refuse to kill if I could).

War is a terrible thing, so Bandos is out. I also rejected Zamorak's lies about progression, when it's obvious that his methods are extreme and only cause needless loss of lives. Even if it did work, it still wouldn't be worth the massive amount of lives destroyed. V was terribly violent and dangerous for someone who claimed to be honorable; he had no problem with killing his own teammates once they've served their purpose. As for Guthix, he's the only one who clearly did have noble intentions, however flawed; a completely hands-off approach leads to suffering and death (as seen in Meeting History, when the family struggled to survive).

Please note that I'm not trying to be too critical of the gods I don't sympathize with; I'm just providing reasons as to why I don't follow the other gods in any sense. Except Zamorak. I will never accept him as he is now.
you sympathize with saradomin despite the fact that armadyl thinks he is a hypocrite. Care to explain why? And zamorak has been called many things but I never heard a player call him a liar. This is not a personal attack but I wonder why you are so quick to reject zamorak but accept saradomin even though arma in my opinion dislikes saradomin due to the fact arma was naieve and was taken advantage of by him. Again this is not a personal attack and you are allowed to believe in whatever you want. I just get why arma followers would tolerate saradomin after what happened in the past

28-Jul-2015 16:40:39

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My reason for following Saradomin is quite simple
"Evil must be destroyed in all of its forms, not mollycoddled and allowed to spread."
I believe Saradomin is the only god to really holds true to this stance, even Armadyl's actions during WE2 only occured after ages of being a soft touch. Saradomin actively seeks out and removes threats to his people, sometimes personally as seen in WE1, sometimes by enlisting the aid of his followers as seen in DoC. I disagree with things such as moral relativism because I believe they lead otherwise good people to inaction, and thus allow harm and suffering to befall innocents just because their tormentors have deluded themselves or don't know any better.

However, Saradomin does more than simply protect his followers and smite the wicked, he provides his followers with knowledge and guidance. With help from his teachings and organizations he has created, the human kingdoms have risen to become some of the most prosperous and secure places on Gielinor.

I am aware that my god has made mistakes, and will most likely make mistakes in the future. He has a temper and is prideful, but he also aware of this and doesn't hide the fact that he has made mistakes, as seen in DoC. He regrets his past actions, which is fitting, as regret begets wisdom and leads to self improvement. This also serves to remind us that he was once, and to some degree, still is, human. Indeed, humanity is another reason why I follow him over gods like Seren and Armadyl, as they are more connected to the elves and aviansie, with most of their followers being from those races. With Saradomin, the majority of his followers are human, or human-like, as are his clergy and greatest champions.

In short, I follow him because he is pragmatic, open about his faults, and ultimately, human.
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28-Jul-2015 18:18:34

Velia
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An Aviansie said :
As for Guthix, he's the only one who clearly did have noble intentions, however flawed; a completely hands-off approach leads to suffering and death (as seen in Meeting History, when the family struggled to survive).
Are you serious? Really, are you serious?

You expect a god, any god, to take time out of their no doubt busy lives to come and personally help out -and continue to help- a single family live comfortably? Armadyl doesn't even do that.

Then you hold it against the one guy whose philosophy is to just 'let things sort themselves out' for balance, as having some ultra-powerful guy looking out for you is unbalanced . You could've picked any of his other flaws but no, you went for something so minor and idiotic that you triggered me.

...And this is all overlooking the fact that the family wasn't 'dying' nor suffering all that much.

28-Jul-2015 18:39:23

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Velia said :
An Aviansie said :
As for Guthix, he's the only one who clearly did have noble intentions, however flawed; a completely hands-off approach leads to suffering and death (as seen in Meeting History, when the family struggled to survive).
Are you serious? Really, are you serious?

You expect a god, any god, to take time out of their no doubt busy lives to come and personally help out -and continue to help- a single family live comfortably? Armadyl doesn't even do that.

Then you hold it against the one guy whose philosophy is to just 'let things sort themselves out' for balance, as having some ultra-powerful guy looking out for you is unbalanced . You could've picked any of his other flaws but no, you went for something so minor and idiotic that you triggered me.

...And this is all overlooking the fact that the family wasn't 'dying' nor suffering all that much.
I agree with you I don't want OR expect zamorak to hold my hand. They are gods they are not responsible for every little thing that goes on in mortals lives.

28-Jul-2015 19:03:51

An Aviansie
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Velia said :
An Aviansie said :
Snip.
Are you serious? Really, are you serious?

You expect a god, any god, to take time out of their no doubt busy lives to come and personally help out -and continue to help- a single family live comfortably? Armadyl doesn't even do that.

Then you hold it against the one guy whose philosophy is to just 'let things sort themselves out' for balance, as having some ultra-powerful guy looking out for you is unbalanced . You could've picked any of his other flaws but no, you went for something so minor and idiotic that you triggered me.

...And this is all overlooking the fact that the family wasn't 'dying' nor suffering all that much.


First, thanks for the ad hominem. It's good to know I should take you seriously because you used the term "idiotic" to describe something I said. When I said that, I didn't mean gods should help literally every tiny little problem in people's lives. What I meant was that it was one of the first families in Gielinor and they couldn't even get basic farming right. No, their lives weren't completely terrible, but let's be honest. Neither of us would want to live a life like that, where we don't even know if we'll get to eat that day.

My point simply was that being purely hands-off isn't a good thing necessarily. Maybe it wasn't necessarily exactly the best example I could have used, but still.

I don't even know why you're flipping out as to why I don't support Guthix. For one, you're Sliskean, and for another, I didn't even say anything completely terrible about Guthix. I never said he was evil or anything, just that I don't support him.

Seriously, settle down. I don't have time for a full blown response right now, but if you do need more, I'll get back to you later. Sorry that my "stupid post" offended you so much.
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29-Jul-2015 01:17:42 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2015 01:19:02 by An Aviansie

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@ an aviansie, he could have worded his post better so it wouldnt seem like he was trying to insult your intelligence. However you could have explained your dislike for certain gods better because the reasons you gave were a little petty. This is not a personal attack, but to me this thread just screams flamebait so we should all be careful about what we post

29-Jul-2015 01:36:25

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