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CD_Paladin_C

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Hazeel said :
I know right? That darn Zamorak thinking that because he converted the majority of its people, the empire is his...and Azzanadra needlessly fighting back. I mean come on, man, Saradomin just wants to subjugate you, why can't you make this easy and bow down? =(

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18-Jan-2017 01:58:58

Vardan

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Hazeel said :
I know right? That darn Zamorak thinking that because he converted the majority of its people , the empire is his...and Azzanadra needlessly fighting back. I mean come on, man, Saradomin just wants to subjugate you, why can't you make this easy and bow down? =(
Did he though? He had the demons on his side, and some of the Mahjarrat, but the fact that he thought he needed to team up with Saradomin makes me think he din't have a majority. And his own forces were weakened after wiping out the Chothions.
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18-Jan-2017 06:41:44

Darc Oejder

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If the majority joined Zamorak why did he team up with Saradomin against the remaining zarosians. The only plausible answer is that he needen Saradomin because there were too many zarosians.
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18-Jan-2017 07:05:08

Vardan

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Darc Oejder said :
If the majority joined Zamorak why did he team up with Saradomin against the remaining zarosians. The only plausible answer is that he needen Saradomin because there were too many zarosians.
Agreed. Makes no sense for him to make an alliance otherwise.
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19-Jan-2017 05:10:00

Hazeel

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Darc Oejder said :
If the majority joined Zamorak why did he team up with Saradomin against the remaining zarosians.

Because they shared a common enemy and Zamorak was naive enough to think Saradomin wouldn't betray him. That's the only reason he needs. He could have 95% of the Empire on his side and it'd still make more sense to join with Saradomin and fight the remaining forces rather than squabble amongst each other. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

19-Jan-2017 06:08:48

Hazeel

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Fair enough, it's just a guess on my part...mainly because I can't imagine Zamorak fighting three other Gods in the God Wars for thousands of years with less than half the empire. Also, given the crappy state of it, I doubt many of them zealously fought to keep it. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

19-Jan-2017 08:30:28

Darc Oejder

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Hazeel said :
Darc Oejder said :
If the majority joined Zamorak why did he team up with Saradomin against the remaining zarosians.

Because they shared a common enemy and Zamorak was naive enough to think Saradomin wouldn't betray him. That's the only reason he needs. He could have 95% of the Empire on his side and it'd still make more sense to join with Saradomin and fight the remaining forces rather than squabble amongst each other.

In Zemoregal's memory it is said that when Zamorak returned to Gilienor he attacked ALL the gods invading the empire and he tried to take the empire from the loyalists. That and the fact that Zamorak kept preaching chaos while Saradomin had been the god of order for eons means that they were enemies from the beginning and they joined forces against the empire none the less. Why would you join your worst nemesis if the situation isn't bad? Claiming Zamorak had 95% of the empire and still joined with Saradomin is ridiculous.

We know it took centuries to conquer the Zarosian citys and fortresses so saying most zarosians joined Zamorak quickly is grossly exaggerated opinion of Zamorak's appeal.

At least Zamorak is true to his philosophy, Saradomim had no such excuse to invade the empire and destroy all who didn't join him.
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19-Jan-2017 10:46:40

Chaos Lupus

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Cthris said :
Okay just for the record, does anyone have a source claiming Zamorak
had the majority? Or is all this conjecture?

There was a mod quote stating it, but it's not canon as far as I'm aware.
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19-Jan-2017 13:17:45

Chaos Lupus

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Darc Oejder said :
Hazeel said :
Darc Oejder said :
If the majority joined Zamorak why did he team up with Saradomin against the remaining zarosians.

Because they shared a common enemy and Zamorak was naive enough to think Saradomin wouldn't betray him. That's the only reason he needs. He could have 95% of the Empire on his side and it'd still make more sense to join with Saradomin and fight the remaining forces rather than squabble amongst each other.

In Zemoregal's memory it is said that when Zamorak returned to Gilienor he attacked ALL the gods invading the empire and he tried to take the empire from the loyalists. That and the fact that Zamorak kept preaching chaos while Saradomin had been the god of order for eons means that they were enemies from the beginning and they joined forces against the empire none the less. Why would you join your worst nemesis if the situation isn't bad? Claiming Zamorak had 95% of the empire and still joined with Saradomin is ridiculous.

We know it took centuries to conquer the Zarosian citys and fortresses so saying most zarosians joined Zamorak quickly is grossly exaggerated opinion of Zamorak's appeal.

At least Zamorak is true to his philosophy, Saradomim had no such excuse to invade the empire and destroy all who didn't join him.

Entirely plausible, though I'd take everything in Zemouregal's memory with a grain of salt. There are too many major contradictions in it at this point (Zemouregal's knowledge of the Stone, Zamorak's condition after Zaros' defeat, etc.). And if Zamorak maintained the same disposition as he did while on Infernus, it's probable that he wasn't so much the one preaching chaos as it was his followers.
The strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack.

19-Jan-2017 13:31:08

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