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Hazeel

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Saradomin could absolutely make portals.

1) He needed a way to get to Naragun.

2) He needed a way to bring his soldiers to Naragun.

3) He needed a way for both him and his soldiers to leave when he had lost the war. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Jan-2017 02:27:10

Padomenes

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Hazeel said :
Saradomin could absolutely make portals.

1) He needed a way to get to Naragun.

2) He needed a way to bring his soldiers to Naragun.

3) He needed a way for both him and his soldiers to leave when he had lost the war. Except you don't know if he flew/traveled there then opened a portal for others to come through which he closed.

You don't know how much energy it took for Zaros to open that 1 portal just so he could bring 12 legions with him onto Gielinor. It took killing another god slowly to do that.

Lore hints opening just one portal to another world far away takes heaps of energy/power, and if you are saying Saradomin should come back to Naragun in that wounded state, use all his remaining energy to open a portal only to be killed by Tuska its quite obvious you are just calling for him to be killed off.

28-Jan-2017 16:22:12 - Last edited on 28-Jan-2017 16:22:45 by Padomenes

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Giras

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Padomenes said :
Hazeel said :
Saradomin could absolutely make portals.

1) He needed a way to get to Naragun.

2) He needed a way to bring his soldiers to Naragun.

3) He needed a way for both him and his soldiers to leave when he had lost the war. Except you don't know if he flew/traveled there then opened a portal for others to come through which he closed.

You don't know how much energy it took for Zaros to open that 1 portal just so he could bring 12 legions with him onto Gielinor. It took killing another god slowly to do that.

Lore hints opening just one portal to another world far away takes heaps of energy/power, and if you are saying Saradomin should come back to Naragun in that wounded state, use all his remaining energy to open a portal only to be killed by Tuska its quite obvious you are just calling for him to be killed off.
So Saradomin must have:
A: Left his forces there to die as well when he fled.
or
B: Purposely barred any Naragi from crossing over as he evacuated his own troops.

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28-Jan-2017 16:55:36

Hazeel

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Padomenes said :
Except you don't know if he flew/traveled there then opened a portal for others to come through which he closed.

You don't know how much energy it took for Zaros to open that 1 portal just so he could bring 12 legions with him onto Gielinor. It took killing another god slowly to do that.

Lore hints opening just one portal to another world far away takes heaps of energy/power, and if you are saying Saradomin should come back to Naragun in that wounded state, use all his remaining energy to open a portal only to be killed by Tuska its quite obvious you are just calling for him to be killed off.

1) Why on earth would he do that, rather than just taking the extra 5 seconds to step through his own portal with his followers?

2) That was to transport his troops from opposite ends of the universe. All Saradomin needed to do was open a portal to a neighboring planet, take his troops/Naragi and escape to that planet until he was ready to move on again.

3) Except it's not that far away. Naragun and New Domina are clearly closer to the middle than Gielinor and Infernus. Either way, he was able to open a portal for himself to escape, so he wasn't that wounded. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Jan-2017 17:19:03

Darc Oejder

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Zaros brought to Gilienor 20k+ demons from infernus which is at the opposite end of the universe. Opening up a portal for a few thousand Naragi to transport them to another nearby planet is a piece of cake in comparisson for a tier 5+ god like Saradomin.
Claiming he was too injured to do it is silly. Was he injured for years or what? It doesn't take long to open a portal so being exposed to Tuska for long isn't an issue either.
Saradomin just gave up on the naragi.

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28-Jan-2017 18:32:44

Aeldari

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Darc Oejder said :
Claiming he was too injured to do it is silly. Was he injured for years or what? It doesn't take long to open a portal so being exposed to Tuska for long isn't an issue either.
Saradomin just gave up on the naragi.

It could be postulated that Saradomin no longer had the energy to do much, a God war had been raging for hundreds of years. The fact of the matter however, is that we do not have much information, let alone a preponderance of evidence to responsibly take any firm stance.

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28-Jan-2017 23:03:52

Hazeel

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Aeldari said :
Darc Oejder said :
Claiming he was too injured to do it is silly. Was he injured for years or what? It doesn't take long to open a portal so being exposed to Tuska for long isn't an issue either.
Saradomin just gave up on the naragi.

It could be postulated that Saradomin no longer had the energy to do much, a God war had been raging for hundreds of years.

In which case he would have been trapped there and killed. Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

28-Jan-2017 23:21:27

Aeldari

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Hazeel said :
In which case he would have been trapped there and killed. Note that I inferred that his energy was running low, not that it was depleted in its entirety. All we really know for certain was that Saradomin was defeated and was forced to abandon Naragun.

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28-Jan-2017 23:32:33

Darc Oejder

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Aeldari said :
Hazeel said :
In which case he would have been trapped there and killed. Note that I inferred that his energy was running low, not that it was depleted in its entirety. All we really know for certain was that Saradomin was defeated and was forced to abandon Naragun.

When was it said he was defeated anyway? As far as I know he just up and left.

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28-Jan-2017 23:46:03

Aeldari

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Darc Oejder said :
Aeldari said :
Hazeel said :
In which case he would have been trapped there and killed. Note that I inferred that his energy was running low, not that it was depleted in its entirety. All we really know for certain was that Saradomin was defeated and was forced to abandon Naragun.

When was it said he was defeated anyway? As far as I know he just up and left. The Guthixian memories state that Saradomin grappled with Tuska. During DOC this was corroborated by Saradomin's own testimony when he said he wished to defend the Naragi.

<><>At daybreak, a distant sound roused me. I dashed outside to witness a huge, tusked creature crashing upon the white fortress of the blue giant. The blue giant materialised and grappled with the beast.<><>

<><>I sought to make amends, when the beast and the hunter brought violence of their own. I fought against them for the same reason that I now battle Zamorak... To protect you. To remove a threat. As long as these invaders exist, your world shall never know peace. <><>

Later on the memories state that Saradomin abandoned the planet to Tuska, which implies he was defeated.

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28-Jan-2017 23:56:17

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