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Raleirosen

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DS Abolish said :
Moral relativism is horrible. Better to either believe in objective morality or to be a moral nihilist/error theorist. Horrible or not, it's fact. Even if you choose not to "believe" in it, you must recognize that you do not -- indeed, cannot -- act within the same moral framework in the world of Gielinor as you do in real life. Attempting to do so is, as I said, ludicrous.
DS Abolish said :
As for Azzanadra, this is in response to Sepulchre using Azzanadra as an authority, saying he would be "disappointed." I refuted this by showing that <sheer embarrassment follows> Let the facepalms begin.

"Azzanadra is disappointed" is a joke; a meme. She was not using him as an authority in any way, shape or form. You've simply read too far into a punchline.

Incidentally, please do elaborate on how your act of forcible eugenics was "the right thing to do" while brazenly rejecting moral relativism.
DS Abolish said :
Also, how is Armadyl "utterly tedious"? What little lore he has makes him out to be a more naive Saradomin; benevolent but misguided, he's made mistakes in the past. But whereas Smurfledore accepted/justified those mistakes and became a more complex and interesting character in the process, Armadyl just got depressed and lazed around for a while. What an absolute loser.

In short, he doesn't have an arc. WE2 gave him the beginnings of something interesting, but since then we've gotten nothing. He is a boring, static bird with no content. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

04-Jun-2016 22:10:09 - Last edited on 04-Jun-2016 22:15:02 by Raleirosen

Hazeel

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Armadyl really is a boring version of Saradomin....with that said, though, you might want to join him or Seren. Armadyl, if you want a more millitant philosophy (fighting for peace). Seren if you want a more passive philosophy (being a peaceful person). Runescape doesn't need a hero...it needs a villain. An all encompassing force of evil that will remain ever-threatening and use chaos to make the peoples of Gielinor tolerate each other, grow strong together, and fight side by side against this evil. I am that villain.

04-Jun-2016 22:37:02 - Last edited on 04-Jun-2016 22:37:21 by Hazeel

DS Abolish

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Wow, I really must have gotten under Raleirosen's skin! Unfortunately, it sounds like discourse is pointless with this person. Sometimes I wonder if the internet brings out the worst in people. Raleirosen, you act as if your ego is as great as Saradomin's. Maybe it is time to reevaluate your life.

05-Jun-2016 05:56:55

Tempra
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DS Abolish said :
Wow, I really must have gotten under Raleirosen's skin! Unfortunately, it sounds like discourse is pointless with this person. Sometimes I wonder if the internet brings out the worst in people. Raleirosen, you act as if your ego is as great as Saradomin's. Maybe it is time to reevaluate your life. dont take offense, that's just her personality. she knows shes an edgelord/edgelordess O_o ?

05-Jun-2016 05:59:16

DS Abolish

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Hazeel said :
Armadyl really is a boring version of Saradomin....with that said, though, you might want to join him or Seren. Armadyl, if you want a more millitant philosophy (fighting for peace). Seren if you want a more passive philosophy (being a peaceful person).

I don't really think Armadyl is a boring version. His story has yet to be expanded upon, but it sounds interesting. Saradomin is not portrayed very heroically or good nowadays, whereas Armadyl is, which makes me consider him not a Saradomin clone.

All-in-all, it feels like I am truly aligned with Armadyl in outlook on a lot of things, although I like Zaros very much as well. I do not like Seren very much at all.

05-Jun-2016 06:01:33

Raleirosen

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DS Abolish said :
Wow, I really must have gotten under Raleirosen's skin! Unfortunately, it sounds like discourse is pointless with this person. Sometimes I wonder if the internet brings out the worst in people. Raleirosen, you act as if your ego is as great as Saradomin's. Maybe it is time to reevaluate your life. Your inability to even tangentially address my points speaks volumes. You resort to these accusations of rustled jimmies and narcissism, despite me expressing nothing even remotely agitated or self-aggrandizing. Sheer projection on your part, friend. And you have the gall to refer to your utterly vapid responses as "discourse" -- what a joke.

Either you're delusional, dishonest, or a bit of both. To your credit though, you did phrase it quite accurately: DS Abolish said :
Unfortunately, it sounds like discourse is pointless with this person. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

05-Jun-2016 12:27:40 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 12:35:18 by Raleirosen

Raleirosen

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Tempra said :
dont take offense, that's just her personality. she knows shes an edgelord/edgelordess O_o ? If calling people out on their illogical horse**** qualifies for "edgelady" status, then so be it. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

05-Jun-2016 12:36:28

Cthris
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DS Abolish said :
Wow, I really must have gotten under Raleirosen's skin! Unfortunately, it sounds like discourse is pointless with this person. Sometimes I wonder if the internet brings out the worst in people. Raleirosen, you act as if your ego is as great as Saradomin's. Maybe it is time to reevaluate your life. To be fair, she is mostly right. Believe me, I like error theory as much as next nihlist but she's absolutely correct, you cannot operate with the same moral framework in Runescape as you can real life. Regardless of what your own morality is the culmination of choices and dialog have painted the World Guardian as a moral relativist. You're just going to keep run into stupid circumstances where the World Guardian does something, or says something that makes no sense.

For instance, a moral absolutest would probably have a difficult time justifying the murder of the three Paladin Knights in Underground Pass. I don't even want to start on how screwed a Kantian would be. As a believer in error theory it always amuses me when the World Guardian is able to infer a categorical imperative in a situation. I'm like "Dude, I highly doubt you were able to create the moral framework to make such a claim."

Other problems that make it impossible to act in the same moral framework that you do in real life is the assumption of individualism, the fact that there are souls, and the assumption of free will.

If your going to roleplay, it's a lot more fun and one hell of a lot easier to roleplay as a moral relativist.

05-Jun-2016 14:19:45 - Last edited on 05-Jun-2016 18:04:05 by Cthris

Ancient Drew

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DS Abolish said :
"I believe that everything that occurs in life, both good and bad, should be used to forge oneself, to better oneself. If we give in to weakness, then we do not deserve the gift of life. Where Guthix sought balance in the world, I seek balance in oneself."

See, the quote is a negative for Zaros to me. I certainly do not believe that "If we give in to weakness, then we do not deserve the gift of life." I care about "weak" people too. There's being weak and wanting to grow strong, and then there's giving up completely. Even goblins can be strong if they put their mind to it and stay focussed on their dreams. And seeking balance in oneself is seeking to improve, learn and grow stronger through good and bad times. We should never give up, no matter what, and it's for this reason why I also respect Armadyl; he never gave up on his dreams of pursuing justice. The fact Armadyl took on the aspect of the phoenix is proof of that. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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