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Wahisietel
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Sorry, I've been busy with real life recently, I keep meaning to post here but I keep being distracted.

So, brief outline of changes proposed. Someone who doesn't suck at writing and explaining things should make the final one, but this is just a short summary, so it will do for now.

*Move the stuff about Valzin dedicating his mansion to the Kinshra to the start of the book, with the explanation that what little we read is an extract from a larger book. Text for this proposed alteration is yet to be written.
*Change the references to Lord Shadwell in Captain Dulcin's journal to Lord Valzin
*Change Poule Scryant to Poule Scrye.
***-add the reference to Port Lina being destroyed
*Introduce Boltoph as "King Boltoph Remanis of Varrock" instead of simply "Boltoph", and change the later reference to him to simply "Boltoph"
*Change "Zamorak, Lord of Chaos and Death" to simply "Zamorak, Lord of Chaos"
***-add the reference to the march at the border of the Wilderness, remove the reference to the Kinshra's perilous march and re-add the mention of the Kinshra leaving Falador.
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

16-Feb-2015 13:27:20

Lord Drakan
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Wahisietel said :
Sorry, I've been busy with real life recently, I keep meaning to post here but I keep being distracted.

So, brief outline of changes proposed. Someone who doesn't suck at writing and explaining things should make the final one, but this is just a short summary, so it will do for now.

*Move the stuff about Valzin dedicating his mansion to the Kinshra to the start of the book, with the explanation that what little we read is an extract from a larger book. Text for this proposed alteration is yet to be written.
*Change the references to Lord Shadwell in Captain Dulcin's journal to Lord Valzin
*Change Poule Scryant to Poule Scrye.
***-add the reference to Port Lina being destroyed
*Introduce Boltoph as "King Boltoph Remanis of Varrock" instead of simply "Boltoph", and change the later reference to him to simply "Boltoph"
*Change "Zamorak, Lord of Chaos and Death" to simply "Zamorak, Lord of Chaos"
***-add the reference to the march at the border of the Wilderness, remove the reference to the Kinshra's perilous march and re-add the mention of the Kinshra leaving Falador.

Hah! I knew I wasn't the only one to misspell Botolph and Boltoph! :D

I agree with this, by the way. One thing though: was the "and death" bit a problem? I'm fine with changing it, as I said, but I still haven't heard an explanation as to why. :/ It sounds pretty awesome and people seem to like it. Oh well, book is still balamced towards Zamorak even if this is changed. ^_^

PS. We really shouldn't submit the definitive list until Robo turns up though. Haven't seen him in a few days so I hope e'rrythin's all right.
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16-Feb-2015 16:06:26

Nolhiir
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The problem with having Zamorak known as the "Lord of Chaos and Death" is that, should a person unfamiliar with the lore read the book to learn the lore sees that, they may incorrectly draw that Zamorak is the god of evil, or an evil god, which is entirely subjective.
...Plus, Zamorak has nothing to do with death. That would be Ic**lain and Harold.
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16-Feb-2015 16:47:07

Lord Drakan
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Nolhiir said :
The problem with having Zamorak known as the "Lord of Chaos and Death" is that, should a person unfamiliar with the lore read the book to learn the lore sees that, they may incorrectly draw that Zamorak is the god of evil, or an evil god, which is entirely subjective.
...Plus, Zamorak has nothing to do with death. That would be Ic**lain and Harold.

Actually, Betrayal and Falador and the Abyss miniquest beg to differ. While not affiliated with the process of death in the way Iccy or Harold are, he's associated with it by followers and, er, non-followers alike.

Your first point has merit though, I'd never considered that. Funny though, someone else said this would seem a compliment for Zamorak for pretty much the same reasons. :P Oh well, I don't mind either way really.
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16-Feb-2015 17:03:51

William Witt
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Which part of Betrayal at Falador refers to him as such? Can you produce a quote?


And Wahisietel, I want to clarify that that isn't all - Just haven't been progressing in the past several days.
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16-Feb-2015 18:04:34 - Last edited on 16-Feb-2015 18:07:50 by William Witt

Lord Drakan
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William Witt said :
Which part of Betrayal at Falador refers to him as such? Can you produce a quote?


And Wahisietel, I want to clarify that that isn't all - Just haven't been progressing in the past several days.

Amazingly, I got the right page on first try. Chapter six, pages 46-7:

"[Ebenezer* believes them all to be one being, that each element of the traditional gods - such as order and wisdom from Saradomin, and chaos and death for Zamorak - are parts of a single entity." -Cas
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16-Feb-2015 18:51:47

Wahisietel
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William Witt said :
And Wahisietel, I want to clarify that that isn't all - Just haven't been progressing in the past several days.


I know, was just a summary of all changes I've seen proposed so far. Have you thought of any others?
You never were our brightest star, Khazard. 'Vermin slaughtered like lambs'? What does that even mean?

16-Feb-2015 21:10:23

Derack
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maybe change it too Zamorak, Lord of Chaos and father of invention would look nicer, but i dont mind that he is refferd to death. whatever works :p
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17-Feb-2015 17:32:29 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2015 17:32:52 by Derack

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